OMEGA.renfire vs PS.DeadHunter

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OMEGA.renfire vs PS.DeadHunter

Postby renfire » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:20

Hi, I'm OMEGA.renfire and I have been banned permanently by -PS-DeadHunter, with unknown reason. My teammate (OMEGA.nhano) told me that I was banned by SpawnKilling reason... well, if someone spend just a bit of time and watch the logs, he will see that i just kill 1 enemy player with air atack before being banned permanently.

I already read your rules, and there explain 5 warning levels. I was banned permanently without warning.

I'm waiting for an explanation for this unfair actitude.


thanks

PS: the admins are admins to sure a fair game, not just for play, take advantadge from his status or ban an inocent player because admins had a bad day... it's so sad but it's true.
PS2: you have a great configuration and good players... but not best admins, in my opinion. Excuses like "I ban fast, and after unban fast too" is a poor admin way

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Postby nhano » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:35

"do what I say, not what I do" isn't a good way to admin, I think
I refer to the rules, where there put the 5 levels of warning, and we both have been banned directly banned without any advertise =(

In my modest opinion, there are "always" sufficient admins in the game as Spectator to do this work right and we will agree them to do it

it's normal that a playing andmin can't emit a right decision in few seconds, without dying ... and without leaving the arena... less
a wrong decision in few seconds --> not playing in two days....

yesterday we were 5 omega members to play together, and we had to run quake3 locally, with bots U_U'

...for injusticies, there is the real life... no???

so.. play for fun, and admin for all...

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Re: OMEGA.renfire vs PS.DeadHunter

Postby mem » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:36

renfire wrote:I'm waiting for an explanation for this unfair actitude.


it's not my ban, but i nevertheless will answer you considering your pitiful unban request..

you have been banned permanently without any warn, yes.. it's unfair and admin abuse ? i think no..
let us reflect two minutes : every player like you consider normal to be warned before banned for sk, and if we follow the rules point by point we have to warn you 5 times before the ban.. (warn, gib, kick, temp ban, ban) so, every player like you who know the rules can do sk 4 times and stop to dodge the ban, cool thing, everyone can sk lot with that !

Well, no, that is abuse. you know the rules, you said it yourself, so don't sk while hoping there's no admin watching you, stop this childish behavior and then you'll never received again this kind of ban.

now, wait for Dead's answer, but in your place i would read again my message while thinking of making a real unban request..
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Re: OMEGA.renfire vs PS.DeadHunter

Postby renfire » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:50

Memnoch wrote:it's not my ban, but i nevertheless will answer you considering your pitiful unban request..


pitiful? why?

Memnoch wrote:you have been banned permanently without any warn, yes.. it's unfair and admin abuse ? i think no..

let us reflect two minutes : every player like you consider normal to be warned before banned for sk, and if we follow the rules point by point we have to warn you 5 times before the ban.. (warn, gib, kick, temp ban, ban) so, every player like you who know the rules can do sk 4 times and stop to dodge the ban, cool thing, everyone can sk lot with that !


rules are writed to be acomplished. If rules don't work, change the rules.


Memnoch wrote:Well, no, that is abuse. you know the rules, you said it yourself, so don't sk while hoping there's no admin watching you, stop this childish behavior and then you'll never received again this kind of ban.


I never did it.

Memnoch wrote:now, wait for Dead's answer, but in your place i would read again my message while thinking of making a real unban request..


I think that it's not a implore forum, it's a mistake report forum. At last, this is my situation.

thanks for your time

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Re: OMEGA.renfire vs PS.DeadHunter

Postby nhano » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:50

Memnoch wrote:[ if we follow the rules point by point we have to warn you 5 times before the ban.. (warn, gib, kick, temp ban, ban) so, every player like you who know the rules can do sk 4 times and stop to dodge the ban, cool thing, everyone can sk lot with that !


if this is right, only change the rules... like"spawnkilling implies a kick and after a ban"
but, I'm not an admin to propose it
only think about this (it's not a complain, its just an advertise)

now, wait for Dead's answer, but in your place i would read again my message while thinking of making a real unban request..


THIS, for me, is an admin abuse...
we are not pleaning, we are questioning a way, wrong for us, of treating players :)


only to say, that we read the rules AFTER the ban, not before
we found the server not remember how, and began to play inmediatlly, without reading the little letter... sorry


we are not child playing to win ignoring the fun of the other. Unless, we aren't

And, Memnoch,I respect you a lot, I've learned so much being killed by you from incredible places and in incredible ways, and following you when I can, but, in my modest opinion as ever, you've read this post from the eyes of a police, not from a judge's ones
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Postby Damelon » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:53

first of all i never making ban without any reason...your ban why a "banned by admin" ? couse i did !ban omega spawnkilling...but theres 2 omega so i just did !ban 25
dude really you killed 1 person but i saw it you ran away...you put arty near the spawn but becouse you ran away you killed a guy IN THE SPAWN

thats called spawnkilling...spawnkilling = BAN

as i said to your friend you get unban after a day..well its after a day and a ban removed so we got nothing to make a war

and next time watch where you put artys couse if you put near the spawn probaly 50% it makes spawnkill

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Postby nhano » Sat Jan 27, 2007 21:57

thanks DeadHunter

it's not a war, we are talking, unless here
after, enter and make some parties ;)

p.d.: how the people advertise for the SK? when I do it, it doesn't work and the SK I've lived are so heaviers than a firing...

P.d.2: what the hell means "!ban 25" ?? we are not admins remember?? O_O
p.d.3: why was I changed of team before renfire's ban??

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Postby renfire » Sat Jan 27, 2007 22:12

well, first of all, thanks for your moderated writing style. I'm pleased.

Anyway, I didn't pay any attention to the severe punishment to sk. It was not enought warned in your rules section.

Finally, I expect to improbe at game as well I wish to admins had no reasons to ban anybody... meanwhile, I hope that anyplayer have a chance to be listened without prejudices.

thanks again, DeadHunter

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it's not my ban, but i nevertheless will answer you considering your pitiful unban request..


no comments, no respect

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Postby mem » Sun Jan 28, 2007 0:02

renfire wrote:
it's not my ban, but i nevertheless will answer you considering your pitiful unban request..


no comments, no respect


why no respect ? did i insult you ? i said it was a pitiful unban request, and i didn't change my opinion. i don't say YOU're pitiful, i say that for your unban request...

why ? because you know the rules and you do sk nevertheless. you enough know the rules to ask us for apply perfectly but not enough to respect them.. and here there's no respect.
for new players, sk = warn, gib, kick, temp ban, ban..
but for old players with some lvls, rules are more hardest.. you want or you have lvls ? learn to apply rules and show the good way

if that can reassure you, knows that for me a PS member must even more severely be punished than you for the same fault

Nhano : !ban 25 is a ban with slot number. each player have a slot number allotted when he's connected, and commands can be executed with name or slot

Edit : you're right Nhano, i don't have read all of your sentences (just yours, i have read Renfire words many times^^).. but if you think i have cop's eyes here, just take a look in a full server and you'll know why : we have to warn/gib/kick/ban somebody almost at each minute of play, when is not more. i don't like that, but as long as there will be people to try without stop breaking rules we'll have to be cops. (and, btw, the only perm ban to my credit is for a cheater, as much as possible i warn before doing anything else^^)
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Postby Joky » Sun Jan 28, 2007 0:27

1: lvls of warning is a GUIDELINE => no rule
2: there probably have been some common warnings in mainchat/msgthingy if not, there should be
3: i see too much people posting here that havent got ANYTHING to do with the ban... QUIT THAT
=> IN THE FUTURE I WILL DELETE POSTS OF PEOPLE POSTING UNWANTED

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