nhano, I've been banned, why?

[nhano Profile]

Ok, renfire is banned newly, by SK...

and me?? each time you warn/kick/ban renfire, something happens to me...
why?? it's possible because we use the same IP?or the same prefix (OMEGA) ???

so... I'm thinking in looking for another NQ server because I think here I've very bad luck... or this or you don't like me... O_o
and now neither the XP...

I supose you have lots of players and it's not important to lose someones for you... right... u_u

[darkdevil Profile]

Because you have the same lan as him,
your brothers? Or familly?

[nhano Profile]

O_o

so, if ANYONE playing on a PS-Server from a LAN (the most normal internet access, not so many people has direct internet connection...) makes something wrong and results banned, nobody in the LAN can longer play...???

or if is my brother who does SK, it's a reason...?
in rules, there is not written

can't admins treat players, not IPs??

I'm not an admin, but it's very strange the way to ban a player... for the IP...

do you know that if I restart the router I get a new IP... ¬¬

[gothicer Profile Website]

nhano take it easy, firts of all: this is an unbanrequest so say when,who and why youre banned(about the WHY: you dont know :s maybe tell us who did it and lets wait till he says something on this topic)

second about the ipban, i dont know much about this so wait till someone who does know this replys

third about routerresset: heu...this sounds like a treat relax a litle probably the mysterie will be revealled.

[darkdevil Profile]

:/ Yu just have the same connection as him.
Just tell your brother that he may not break the rulz

[nhano Profile]

¬_¬'
or just say your admins to ban what they have to ban, not taking the fastest way...

or is my job now to advertise ALL the people playing in my LAN (in a university, the LAN can be so big...) about your rules...???

c u

p.d.: I've no idea about who banned me... of course

p.d.2: in PS#2 the ways are the same?? or directly I look for another servers...?

[renfire Profile]

First of all, this post is for unban requests... so this is my request.

I've banned for supposed SK. I don't agree with that.

At same time, my partner OMEGA.nhano was banned too.

Reason: we have same IP address.

Well, I don't think that it's a good reason to ban anyone. That's like kill flies with a cannon. Is his fault? No.

I can not aggree with this way of admin, so we think that is better to play to any other server, and is my dutty to explain our reasons, to give you a chance to improbe.

Bye.

[warren-the-ape]

A player gets banned by IP and Guid.
OMEGA.renfire is banned for SK (spawnkill) by -|PS|- Bowdown.

Ehh are you playing at your university on a saturday?

We have someting called a Rulebook I suggest you and OMEGA.renfire take
a look at it, cause this isn't the first time that he is banned!

Don't blame us blame yourself (renfire).

[nhano Profile]

A player gets banned by IP and Guid.
OMEGA.renfire is banned for SK (spawnkill) by -|PS|- Bowdown.

Hi! I'm OMEGA.nhano
there is a thing called client ports to difference between players in the same IP

Ehh are you playing at your university on a saturday?

yes, I can enter my university when I want, and the connection is better
you can't at yours?

We have someting called a Rulebook I suggest you and OMEGA.renfire take a look at it, cause this isn't the first time that he is banned!

I have reread the "terms and conditions" and accepted them, without reading nothing like "if anyone in some IP es a bad guy and spawnkills, all players from this IP will be banned"

Don't blame us blame yourself (renfire).

¬¬' I continue thinking there were other ways, I'll install a ET server later at home to look if is it possible to ban someone without afecting the same-ip players

I'm sorry if I'm doing the smart but you are touching my bowles with this explanations litterally traduced

c.u. in PS#2

[warren-the-ape]

Im not an ET programmer so I can't help it that they designed the ban system like this

[nhano Profile]

I'm not saying ET is bad programmed, I'm no so well programmer to say this- I'm considering the case that THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO BAN, no "if there was" and I say this because the other time OMEGA.renfire was banned last time I continue playing, ask Mr.DeadHunter how did he do this (something like "!ban 25")

the only happened is I was changed of team

and, thanks to -|PS|- Bowdown for saying anything here... I'm really agreed with him for being banned eternally in PS#1 without reason... u_u
I expect don't found him in other servers, as an admin...


[c.u. in Amsterdam Warren ¿¿¿???]

[darkdevil Profile]

[Mr.DeadHunter how did he do this (something like "!ban 25")]

If you do !listplayers evry player has a number its verry easy then you pick the number of the rule breaker and that you do !ban ''number''

[mem Profile]

Darkdevil, rather than write two messages at one minute of interval uses 'Edit' function please. and btw, profile have no bearing with adminlevels.

Nhano, you can try to set a different port for your ET :
net_port 27970 by exemple (put that in your config file, or /seta net_port XXXXX in console) but don't forget to specify the server port if you use /connect command, because your ET will now use the port you specify here

Edit : no need to spam this topic, so i answer here :

a client can't specify a client port to connect with server port

yes, you can, this cvar is made for that^^
with it, you can also have many ET running on same computer (why do that ? well, test a server, be a geek... as you want^^)

If you dont want to lose your xp than you need to copy the profile

...
read better before answering again this kind of sentences, xp or admin lvls have NO bearing with your profile, that come with your guid (so your etkey)

[nhano Profile]

Nhano, you can try to...

thanks, but the real problem is that I'm banned without reason, and if each time an admin wrongs at his job "I can try" something, I will learn a lot of computers, but I would not play funny so much time =(

[renfire Profile]

Dear Memnoch,

a client can't specify a client port to connect with server port, but, when connected, the client port is fixed while connection is alive. So, any client, any etplayer have an UNIC ip+clientport. In other way, without relationship, clients have an etID unic when connect, and a nickname, selected by client user.

So, we have that my game connection is defined by 2 unic ways:

1- ip+clientport
2- etID

If you apply a ban to my ip, you ban me and other players who share my connection. It's not a fair admin way to ban only for IP. Is it fast? Yes, but if you are admin, you must apply admin rules well, not apply fast to play as soon as possible.

That's the matter.

Thanks.

[Joky Profile]

renfire,

banning someone happens as follows:
admin sais: !ban [name/slot] [time (if given)] [reason (if given)]
shrubbot (file on the server that logs adminlevels, bans and mutes) stores this info as follows:
[name] name written out including colorcodes
[guid] entire guid
[ip] ip without a portnr
[duration] (0 if it s perm)
[reason] (banned by admin if nothing given)
[banner] admin

what you can see at the IP thingy: it doesnt log a portnr, we cant do anything about it. Or should an admin kindly ask the banned-person's portnr?

Yes, IP's can be changed and guids can be removed, but this is the only banning system we ve got, so we ve gotta work with it.

[BOWDOWN]

First sorry to post a bit late but i have a life too and can t be here every 2 or 3 seconds to check what s goin on. Ok, it s my ban so i need to make it clear, u have a same IP? is not my problem and to be honest i don't care cuz u realy make me angry yesterday. I baned you yesterday in Oasis map, as usual some are enjoy to become a bloody butcher with using arty in axis spawn (i was axis and was killled 2 times with ur damn arty), as i know that some, post complaints about a ban without warn, first i warned you with a serious meessage telling u that u will have any chance for a second SK, u did n t c my message, i don t care and it s your problem, u have server message+admins messages+ warns, anyway u continu your sk, and i did what i told u in my warn : !BAN (and ja i m sure it was renfire, i baned you with slot). Usualy i m cool with those who come and say sorry but no pity for arrogants people (a ban without reason?), and warren seems to know u as a serial spawn killer, then the ban will stay.

[Damelon Profile]

and its wrong when you accuse bow or me for admin abusing..you made rulebreaks not we you wanna have a ban couse of spawnkillings not we
so better if you check the rulebook OMEGA "friends"

[renfire Profile]

Ok.
The problem are not the rules.
The problem is our comunication with you.

It's my word versus an admin word.

My version is, "I did 2 <<firing for effect>> at 2 places in few seconds, and fire with my weapon in a zone within this air attacks. One of this places was near (not in) axis respawn. Those was my first air attacks in the game. For this 'combo', I did a <<multikill>>; but just one axis player died near respawn zone, and it was not my intention to do SK. It was my fault to do one of this 2 multiple air attacks too near. Also, is not my fault that so much other players died near the tankguns, it's my dutty as player."

I've been warned about SK by DeadHunter. I know that players must take care with it. But I think that there was prejudices before hear o know anything about this ban, because I was punished by SK last week.

As usual, I think that this kind of posts are spoiled, admins never assumes mistakes or negligent punishments. Show me just one post in this sense.

Thanks.

[nhano Profile]

we are not arrogant

we simply speak and say what it is, possibly without smileys and each one can read with the entonation he/she wants

if there is not any other way to ban/admin the players I propose:

next mod --> priority --> this aspect
kick the players with the reason because playing, me, it's impossible to read messages. The kick will be sufficient to make this player to read he is doing something wrong
don't you think that kicking the people and putting the full reason, will make more effectiveness and less problems???
probably this takes more time but it won't be seen with the same eyes from the players as a permanent ban "banned by an admin"

[BOWDOWN]

We all will assume our mistakes if there is one, cuz every dude (including me for sure) can make errors, but in your case i c no one mistake. i was killed 2 times with ur arty, one time exactly in the spawn (i was afk for typing a message) , for this one u had a warn message, second one was when i was running out the spawn and after u recieved the warn, this second one caused you ur ban, so tell me what was wrong and what s the mistake in this story?

About admins vs players, how many servers allow you to express yourself without any danger as u do it here?, we do our best, ja it s possible that we did or will do some mistakes, in this case personaly and im sure all others will assume consequences but i m fed up peeps comin here and systemicaly accuse us to do mistakes. U did a shit, assume this and i will think about ur ban, that all i have to add.

[renfire Profile]

As I said, I did one attack near spawn. You problably died at the begining of the attack, respawned and died again in same attack. If you warned and died again it's not my fault, so I can't stop this attack after your warn.

So, may be you don't remember how much time passed between your first and second die, but there was a multikill, so it's an evidence that it was the same attack. If you have a log to check this, use it please.

[BOWDOWN]

My version is, "I did 2 <<firing for effect>> at 2 places in few seconds

Ok, as u told it yourself it was'n t a only one attack, u can t do 2 firing for effect in same time, it mean u had enough time to recieve and get what i mean. Anyway, for me u break rules and that s my conviction. Admit ur error and the ban will probaly change, cuz we let all a second chance, if u think i m not right, it s pity but find another server without "abusing"admin.
The most amazing is that ur friend is baned in PS2 too and for same reason, sorry but for me it s another evidence.

About using kick or perm ban, ja personaly i use more kick command than !ban, i use this one when i want a person do post and act in forum, exactly what u r doing, in this way all will be clear. And players who realy wants continu playing here, do post, say sry and usualy we did n t c them anymore in da banlist.

[Damelon Profile]

second chance? its allready his second chance
if i remember good and ET dont crshed my brain i banned this renfire dude about a week ago for SPAWNKILLING
and he called me a admin abuser couse i banned him for right reason..and yes it was NOT near a spawn it was IN THE SPAWN
and spawnkill is forbidden here and then guys you just lie in my face and calling me a admin abuser.well better if you find anouther server couse morons on the server never wellcome!

oh btw have a nice spawnkills in future

cya,

[renfire Profile]

My version is, "I did 2 <<firing for effect>> at 2 places in few seconds

Ok, as u told it yourself it was'n t a only one attack, u can t do 2 firing for effect in same time, it mean u had enough time to recieve and get what i mean.

I said 2 attacks in few times at diferent places, one of them near spawn.

Anyway, for me u break rules and that s my conviction. Admit ur error and the ban will probaly change, cuz we let all a second chance, if u think i m not right, it s pity but find another server without "abusing"admin.

Yes, it's your conviction. Is it not a fait. I'm sure that there is a server log. Review it and confirm o revoke my version.

The most amazing is that ur friend is baned in PS2 too and for same reason, sorry but for me it s another evidence.

I'm sorry, but have you already read this post? OMEGA.nhano was a medick and was banned cause an admin want to ban me. This is an evidence of your mistakes. You banned OMEGA.nhano as error, and you use this mistake to make stronger your convictions. This have no sense.

About using kick or perm ban, ja personaly i use more kick command than !ban, i use this one when i want a person do post and act in forum, exactly what u r doing, in this way all will be clear. And players who realy wants continu playing here, do post, say sry and usualy we did n t c them anymore in da banlist.

I don't wanna say sorry. I explained why.