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Postby Samuraii » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:55

this happens me much times, im connecting and im just entering and some1 do : !Spec999 , plz DONT do that first 3-5 mins its boring :S
i tell that so many times but its happening so many times :S, btw
can some1 unban sammos ? if he is banned :S im more playing at ps 2 than 1 , because 1 is better then 2 , and 2 is better then 4, etc. sammos can better play in ps1 but its sometimes cool if he still fights with me :)

The problem is , i joined axis ,good team good fight, i am loading and putted in spec with !spec999 , sometimes i have to join the other team ,
when friends are still on axis :( , thats i hate. After every1 connected we can have good teams (but then some1 do that damn :Spec999 , most times then we have 15 vs 5 thats stupid ! :( only when really unfair teams are playing do spec999 while im or more players are connecting )

(My English is really bad , sorry 'bout that)
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Postby Mobius » Sat Sep 08, 2007 13:30

Yea i know what u mean about that !spec999.
It should't be done in the first 2-3 min.
But they do it annyways :/.

Maybe try telling them, that they should't do it the next time.
Maybe that helps :)

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Postby Buu » Sat Sep 08, 2007 15:11

:/ i think we shoudl do !spec999 coz teams coudb be very uneven

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Postby Mobius » Sat Sep 08, 2007 18:24

_Buu_PL wrote::/ i think we shoudl do !spec999 coz teams coudb be very uneven


Ever heard of shuffle?
I know what u mean with even teams with !spec999, but not on the beginning.
There for is Shuffle :)

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Re: spec999

Postby Danziger » Sat Sep 08, 2007 18:29

Samuraii wrote:this happens me much times, im connecting and im just entering and some1 do : !Spec999 , plz DONT do that first 3-5 mins its boring :S


Sorry, but I can't understand.
Please explain better what is the problem: why is it boring for you?

For me it's boring to see unfair teams for the first 3-4 minutes of a map because of many players of one team not yet connected.
Doing !spec999, when the players connect, they enter the smallest team, and this bring to balanced teams quickly.
Not doing !spec999, when a new player connect, he/she can enter also the team with more playing people, making the teams more unbalanced.

Mobius wrote:Ever heard of shuffle?
I know what u mean with even teams with !spec999, but not on the beginning.
There for is Shuffle :)


It's clear that if the teams are too much unfair, we are forced to do shuffle, but if we do shuffle at the beginnnig of almost each map, the server becomes very boring for too many players.
I think !shuffle should be used very carefully (not abusing it).
Besides, I cannot see what is the problem with !spec999.

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Postby icefrost » Sat Sep 08, 2007 20:37

absolutly agree with danziger :good:

about sammos, its a permanent ban and this ban will stay. this is out of discussion.
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Re: spec999

Postby Mobius » Sat Sep 08, 2007 22:36

Danziger wrote:Besides, I cannot see what is the problem with !spec999.


Well if u do !specc999 ppl who are still connecting will begin as specc.
Then they have to choose a team, instead of beginning in a team.

And if the teams are unfair u can also do !putteam.
Annyways I never do !spec999 the first 2-3 min, !putteam if teams are unfair.

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Re: spec999

Postby Danziger » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:11

Mobius wrote:Well if u do !specc999 ppl who are still connecting will begin as specc.
Then they have to choose a team, instead of beginning in a team.


And this should be boring?
I don't think so.

And if the teams are unfair u can also do !putteam.
Annyways I never do !spec999 the first 2-3 min, !putteam if teams are unfair.


We cannot know in what order the connecting players will finish to connect and will be ready to play, so we should !putteam all of them in the spectators (and this is more faster if we do !spec999), and after that we !putteam few players from bigger team to smaller team in order to make fair teams.

Anyway, I think the real problem could be another: is it normal that Samuarii take so much time to connect in so many maps?

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Postby Nemesis » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:29

i can only say that i wouldn't even mind puting script on server that do !spec999 once a minute :lol:

!spec999 is a must have command and there's a reason why lower admin levels have it
imagine i make new rotation and you are playing on server 8 on 8, yet 5 players from your team gotta download map. If someone don't do spec999 what gona happen?

Mobius there is amount of warm up on beginning of every map for people to connect. If you want you can discuss about increasing that. But there's no point waiting for someone 4 min to load the map. The player connects late no matter he is in team or spec.
Only thing that really happens because of spec999 is:

1. if you do it on start of map there will be no tking connectors so admins wont need to react with warnings and get everyone stressed
2. players with slow pc's change team and keep them fresh and testy even without shuffling :D

danzi is right and on end that's all i have to add :read:

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Postby Mobius » Sun Sep 09, 2007 13:27

Nemesis wrote: But there's no point waiting for someone 4 min to load the map. The player connects late no matter he is in team or spec.
Only thing that really happens because of spec999 is:

1. if you do it on start of map there will be no tking connectors so admins wont need to react with warnings and get everyone stressed
2. players with slow pc's change team and keep them fresh and testy even without shuffling :D


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Postby Samuraii » Sun Sep 09, 2007 14:25

no more discussion about this :D its just i hate it when im connecting and putted spec

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Postby warren-the-ape » Sun Sep 09, 2007 15:23

No need to lock this topic ;)

What I want to add;

- I usually wait a minute before i !spec999
why; cause after a minute most people are stable and you wont risk putting the whole server into spec which is the case when you do it right after the start (thats something you do NOT want to do) :?

- I look at the amount of 999'ers on both sides, lots of times after 30secs-1min they have an even amount of 999'ers so you wont risk very uneven teams.

Btw a difference of 2 players is no need to !putteam or !shuffle, most of the times it will even out within 2-3 minutes.
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