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New computer Design needed :> help

Postby Xand3r » Tue Jun 01, 2010 13:38

Hello people i'd like to buy a new computer it has to be pritty fast to play games like gta IV etc , at full performance :>
budget is 800 euro but ive already bought a ENGTX275 it is fast anyway so a video card don't has to be in the and sound boxes and screen , mouse , keybord is not needed

but what i want to get in my comp i want a i7 860 in it but the rest idk how it works what will run smooth etc so people can u make a design with in it:

Intel Core i7 860
no video card i already got so people pls help me oke?
and about 6 gb ram

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Postby BOWDOWN » Tue Jun 01, 2010 15:18

So all you need is a motherboard, an enclosure, power supply and RAM's :

As motherboard i would choose one of this three which all allow (6xDDR3) :

Asus Rampage II GENE
eVGA SLI Micro
DFI LanParty JR T3eH6

As enclosure :

Twelve Hundred - EU , nice designe specialy made for gamer configs with an efficient cooling system, also realy silent.

if you don't want a gamer enclosure , go for one of Antec Sonata series products.

Power supply :

You will need a powerful one, specialy if you wanna do some SLI in future or will have few HDD etc ...

Corsair AX 850 or more
Antec Quattro 850 or more

RAM :

No hesitation for me, i alwayz had and have Corsair RAMs and for me they are best one you can find, so would say :

Corsair PC3-16000 DDR3 series

If not, Kingstone is also a good choice

If you wanna 6GB RAM, i recommand you three matched 2GB DDR3 memory modules.

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Postby Xand3r » Tue Jun 01, 2010 16:16

thx for the fast reply how much would that cost? :>
but nice does it all run if i buy it? does it all fit?

all you need is a motherboard, an enclosure, power supply and RAM's :


but you only need that for a new comP? :>

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Postby Death » Tue Jun 01, 2010 16:50

well mostly when you have motherboard and a casing you have pretty much everything, you will most likely have all exit's and USB gate's etc.

you will then only have to add RAM, Video card, HD and power supply yeah.
and probably a DVD burner or DVD player.

Motherboard:
Asus Rampage II GENE 207-263 euro
eVGA SLI Micro 254 euro
DFI LanParty JR T3eH6 273 dollar

Casing:

Antec twelve hundred about 170 euro's i think
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Antec sonata about 120 euro's
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Also looked up this one ... but i dont know what to think of it :S ... it would be very cheap though :O €150 total with power supply and a front controller :O

looks great though imo.
http://www.pixmania.nl/nl/nl/2619115/ar ... uizin.html

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Power supply:

-Corsair possibilities, from cheap to expensive; >
if you take one like bow said 850W it'll be around 130€ i think.
http://www.hardware.nl/search_products. ... IR&cat=UPS

the antec quattro one will be around 130-170 euro's

RAM:
Corsair PC3-16000 DDR3 about 350€


Here all different kinds of Kingston options If you need 3x2GB it'll be around 100-500 euro's
http://www.ciao-shopping.nl/RAM_geheuge ... 3-kingston


Total prizes:
cheapest option will be about 500/600€
Most expensive you could easily get over 1500€ i think :>



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Postby zombie » Tue Jun 01, 2010 17:23

Use Tweakers.net/pricewatch :) Go to Azerty or Salland for e.g.
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Postby Player » Tue Jun 01, 2010 17:24

BOWDOWN's mainboards are incompatible. The Core i7 860 is a socket 1156 CPU, the mainboards are socket 1366 ones.

I'd suggest a mainboard from Gigabyte, just look for one which covers your needs.

Expensive RAM isn't worth it, they use the same chips and latencies are not such a big issue. Maybe try to get some which work at 1.5V, like A-DATA DIMM Kit 6GB PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-28 (DDR3-1333). Low-Latency RAM usually needs higher out-of-spec voltages. You should run memtest86+ after you built the pc to check it.

The PSU should be in the 600W range for a single highend GPU, buy one with a large (120mm+) fan and high efficiency. There are some with cable management which might be handy.

Edit: 4 RAM modules are better for a dual channel setup (socket 1156)

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Postby Xand3r » Tue Jun 01, 2010 20:13

Geil DDR3 6GB Value triple Channel € 143,50 € 143,50 € 120,59

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Cooler Master Nvidia Edition CM 690 ATX Mid Tower Case € 82,00 € 82,00 € 68,91

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Intel Intel Core i7-860 € 244,90

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Antec 850W TruePower Quattro € 133,30

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Gigabyte GA-H55M-USB3 € 102,20

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Western digital Caviar Green 2TB, 64 MB Cache € 119,90 € 100,76

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Totaal excl. BTW: € 693,95
BTW 19%: € 131,85

Total incl. BTW: € 825,80

shall it work well and is it fast ? :>

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Postby Player » Tue Jun 01, 2010 20:43

You need 2*2GB+2*1GB RAM instead of 3*2GB for dual channel mode

be quiet Straight Power 600W ATX 2.3 (E7-600W/BN117) should be enough = 82€

i'd choose a WD Caviar Black, the Green Series are a bit slow for a primary HDD imo

Don't forget a suitable CPU Cooler.

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Postby trG » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:17

i bought new computer build on i7 860 few weeks ago.

what i have there is:

CoolerMaster HAF 922 100euros
motherboard GIGABYTE P55A-UD4 175euros
ram KINGSTON 4GB KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL8 HyperX XMP 131euros
powersupply SEASONIC SS-650HT-F3 77euros
(prices from CZECH shops...)

and i am very satisfied with all of this components.

850w powersupply is to much and useless if you are not planing to run FERMI farm :D
my computer is comsuming like 450 in huuuuge load...
little disadvantage is that there is no cable managment for this supply, i must hide the cables in case.

case is little bit huge, but windy, no noise. maybe better choice will be CoolerMaster Dominator CM 690 .. but mainly depends on your taste

and for motherboard ... it depends ... you want to do some pro-overcloking or basic stuff with small OC is enought for you? ... my pc is clocked to 3,8 and is stable.

for processor you must buy deffinetly better coller than the box one.

for disk ... one of the fastest "normal" hdd now, is WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Black 1TB 32MB cache with code WD1001FALS.

and biggest impact which i feel on my pc is SSD drive where is my system running.

@all: i7-860 is supporting dual channel only ... tripple channel memories are useless ... to have 2x2 and 2 separate ... no.
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Postby zombie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 15:51

I recommend you to buy the CoolerMaster RealPower M620 (620 Watt), modular PSU which means you don't have all those messy cables in your case if you don't need them :P
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Postby Xand3r » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:00

how u meant that triple channel ? explain me pls

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Postby zombie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:25

Socket 775 = dual channel (2 x 2 GB for e.g.)

Socket 1366 = triple channel (3 x 2 GB = 6GB) You use 3 *bankjes* for you RAM instead of 2. That explains why one is Dual (2) and the other one is Triple (3).

Just buy a 3x2GB package of RAM.
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Postby trG » Wed Jun 02, 2010 17:35

1156 is dual channel ... i7-860 is 1156
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Postby Player » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:14

Don't buy 3*2 GB, it won't work in dual channel mode and therefore be 50% slower.

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Postby zombie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:15

I see, 860 is s1156 :> Triple channel isn't slower if you use a s1366 ;)

BTW: Something like this maybe (It's AMD, if you want Intel, it is also possible but more expensive)
http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelman ... =1&product[195354]=1&product[35577]=1&product[236294]=1&product[225309]=1&product[213070]=1&product[259996]=1&product[243861]=1
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Postby Xand3r » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:26

?? isn't slower but a ddr3 doesn't fit in a i860?? :>

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Postby Player » Wed Jun 02, 2010 18:49

DDR3 != triple channel

You need DDR3 RAM and 2 pairs of equal modules ([2GB]+[2GB] or [1GB+1GB]+[1GB+1GB] or [2GB+1GB]+[2GB+1GB] or [2GB+2GB]+[2GB+2GB] etc.)

zombie's remarks are unrelated since he's talking about the core i7-9xx series CPUs for socket 1366 mainboards.

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Postby Xand3r » Wed Jun 02, 2010 21:49

ok i don't really get it
this is just what i want and if u want to figur it out :>

just an i7 860 with 6 gb ram :>

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Postby Player » Thu Jun 03, 2010 0:03

2*
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a449594.html (single 1 GB module)

+

1*
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a449896.html (2GB+2GB kit)

= 6 GB, 1st Channel with 2*2GB, 2nd with 2*1GB

for example.

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Postby trG » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:59

its like PLayer is telling you, two pairs of same module ... 2x2 + 2x1

but its stupid, i think it can even be slowing your pc .... its better to have 2x2gb or 4x2gb (2x4gb)
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