Don't lock the topic before I could even get my point across
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Don't lock the topic before I could even get my point across
Ugh, well, here we go again.
People seems to only grasp the facts that good players are leaving and new players are joining and just assumed it was the point of the topic.
A) New players joining is not a bad thing, most of them evolve to be better sooner or later. I even pointed out this in the previous topic.
B) Good players are leaving, and it's a fact. Why not do something to actually keep the good players there? No, they aren't leaving because they're tired of ET. No, they aren't leaving because they don't get accepted to PS. They're leaving because the focus is on getting new players, non of it is on keeping the old players.
I've been around PS for about a year I believe, and during the year, I've only seen one war and nothing else. Hell, make a !hson function that only does damage on headshots and make fata morgana have that speciality, then on another map make only heavy weapons usable. Mix things around, keep them interesting.
People seems to only grasp the facts that good players are leaving and new players are joining and just assumed it was the point of the topic.
A) New players joining is not a bad thing, most of them evolve to be better sooner or later. I even pointed out this in the previous topic.
B) Good players are leaving, and it's a fact. Why not do something to actually keep the good players there? No, they aren't leaving because they're tired of ET. No, they aren't leaving because they don't get accepted to PS. They're leaving because the focus is on getting new players, non of it is on keeping the old players.
I've been around PS for about a year I believe, and during the year, I've only seen one war and nothing else. Hell, make a !hson function that only does damage on headshots and make fata morgana have that speciality, then on another map make only heavy weapons usable. Mix things around, keep them interesting.
- warren-the-ape
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Meh, you had your chance but you blew it. You had some credibility but you lost it.
After seeing the logs posted in our member forum about the crap you said in PS2 yesterday I find it hard to take any of your words seriously, let alone comment or discuss about it.
In the 3 years I've been playing at this community I've seen guys like you come and go. Guys so full of themselves that would put their own crap on display if they had the chance for it.
If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
They are usually the first to whine when they are in the uneven team and when they get tk'd but the last when it affects someone else, sounding familiar?
But hey, you don't have to play here, nobody is forcing you. You can play where you want, whenever you want isn't that just nice
After seeing the logs posted in our member forum about the crap you said in PS2 yesterday I find it hard to take any of your words seriously, let alone comment or discuss about it.
In the 3 years I've been playing at this community I've seen guys like you come and go. Guys so full of themselves that would put their own crap on display if they had the chance for it.
Meh wrote:Why not do something to actually keep the good players there?
If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
They are usually the first to whine when they are in the uneven team and when they get tk'd but the last when it affects someone else, sounding familiar?
But hey, you don't have to play here, nobody is forcing you. You can play where you want, whenever you want isn't that just nice
"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend."
warren-the-ape wrote:Meh, you had your chance but you blew it. You had some credibility but you lost it.
After seeing the logs posted in our member forum about the crap you said in PS2 yesterday I find it hard to take any of your words seriously, let alone comment or discuss about it.
In the 3 years I've been playing at this community I've seen guys like you come and go. Guys so full of themselves that would put their own crap on display if they had the chance for it.Meh wrote:Why not do something to actually keep the good players there?
If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
They are usually the first to whine when they are in the uneven team and when they get tk'd but the last when it affects someone else, sounding familiar?
But hey, you don't have to play here, nobody is forcing you. You can play where you want, whenever you want isn't that just nice
"You had your chance but you blew it", you make it sound like I was only here for a few admin levels. Don't assume things, the soul reason I played on PS because I liked it, not because of a few commands.
To be honest, your entire post was an assumption. I'm one of the few people that actually purposely goes to the weaker team to help out / have some competition. But you assumed otherwise.
"You cry about TK". No, I don't. I do get annoyed / cry about people not thinking before acting. People who throw nades in crowded areas with the intent of killing enemies, but neglect to think about the fact that they'll do teamdamage (even if it's not an actual kill but just damage).
So, I've answered all your points, how about you answer mine?
hey meh
pls calm down a bit and let us have a nice talk.
we can talk over @ll here and on the server but pls in a mature way. noone want to blame every one and we @ll (most) of us play for fun.
i know long time ps2 was and is a good server with many regulary player, but sometimes are more new player around and the game play go down but lough over this and have fun.
the reason why more older player leave is that they go mostly to the next step on the et world. and yes many player go away.
do a break from et for 2 or 3 weeks and you will see the fun come back.
have a nice day
pls calm down a bit and let us have a nice talk.
we can talk over @ll here and on the server but pls in a mature way. noone want to blame every one and we @ll (most) of us play for fun.
i know long time ps2 was and is a good server with many regulary player, but sometimes are more new player around and the game play go down but lough over this and have fun.
the reason why more older player leave is that they go mostly to the next step on the et world. and yes many player go away.
do a break from et for 2 or 3 weeks and you will see the fun come back.
have a nice day
thomthom wrote:hey meh
pls calm down a bit and let us have a nice talk.
we can talk over @ll here and on the server but pls in a mature way. noone want to blame every one and we @ll (most) of us play for fun.
i know long time ps2 was and is a good server with many regulary player, but sometimes are more new player around and the game play go down but lough over this and have fun.
the reason why more older player leave is that they go mostly to the next step on the et world. and yes many player go away.
do a break from et for 2 or 3 weeks and you will see the fun come back.
have a nice day
Why does everyone tell me to calm down? I haven't used caps, nor have I used curse words... there's really no reason to assume i'm angry/upset.
warren-the-ape wrote:If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
Dear Meh this reply seem me very explict... those "skilled" players are evidently not so appreciate here... or anyway not more than newbies...
play for fun and be happy.. you can play free on a good server..
bye
thomthom wrote:we can talk over @ll here and on the server but pls in a mature way. noone want to blame every one and we @ll (most) of us play for fun.
To me this is seeming quite mature, no childish discussion. I think there can be made a solution here.
thomthom wrote:i know long time ps2 was and is a good server with many regulary player, but sometimes are more new player around and the game play go down but lough over this and have fun.
I thought the discussion was more about that the regulars are leaving, and not about there coming more new players. So meh made a proposal to make the server more attractive for the good skilled "old" regulars. I think thats not a bad idea.
quoting deep:
henksmadje please read topic more carefully and other topics too where u reply, then u get the point and dont have to make stupid posts.
henksmadje please read topic more carefully and other topics too where u reply, then u get the point and dont have to make stupid posts.
wardew wrote:warren-the-ape wrote:If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
Dear Meh this reply seem me very explict... those "skilled" players are evidently not so appreciate here... or anyway not more than newbies...
play for fun and be happy.. you can play free on a good server..
bye
Yeah, can you atleast read the entire topic before you post? He assumed I meant fragwhores, while I just meant people who are generally good and get frags. GoldenBullet would be a nice example, good aim, good knifing skills, all around fun guy, but doesn't visit PS2 much anymore. There's tons more like this.
Meh wrote:wardew wrote:warren-the-ape wrote:If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
Dear Meh this reply seem me very explict... those "skilled" players are evidently not so appreciate here... or anyway not more than newbies...
play for fun and be happy.. you can play free on a good server..
bye
Yeah, can you atleast read the entire topic before you post? He assumed I meant fragwhores, while I just meant people who are generally good and get frags. GoldenBullet would be a nice example, good aim, good knifing skills, all around fun guy, but doesn't visit PS2 much anymore. There's tons more like this.
some ppl have to care bout real life stuff like work school study girlfriend familiy ?
but strange cause golden is an ha and wont stay aways from those u called newbs meh. let me tell u that,
and playing on other servers ive my doubs about that if golden does that.
thats not kind of imagine of golden at all.
Evil wrote:Meh wrote:wardew wrote:warren-the-ape wrote:If by 'good' you mean those fragwhores screaming "omg" "wtf" or "laggg" everytime they get killed, then no, we have no real interest in keeping those guys here.
Dear Meh this reply seem me very explict... those "skilled" players are evidently not so appreciate here... or anyway not more than newbies...
play for fun and be happy.. you can play free on a good server..
bye
Yeah, can you atleast read the entire topic before you post? He assumed I meant fragwhores, while I just meant people who are generally good and get frags. GoldenBullet would be a nice example, good aim, good knifing skills, all around fun guy, but doesn't visit PS2 much anymore. There's tons more like this.
some ppl have to care bout real life stuff like work school study girlfriend familiy ?
but strange cause golden is an ha and wont stay aways from those u called newbs meh. let me tell u that,
and playing on other servers ive my doubs about that if golden does that.
thats not kind of imagine of golden at all.
Sorry, I didn't understand what you mean :/.
@wardew What do you mean? A simple English sentence and you assume I'm not calm? If you didn't understand me, say so and I'll try to explain, but don't assume things.
let me give u a hint.
read your topic where u called goldenbullet in
and then read my post its pretty understandable as u say to all ppl here on forum LOUD Read and unstand
now its your turn.
my english doesnt suck, i talk and would try explain things in a correct and maybe in a incorrect way but atleast people know what i mean
read your topic where u called goldenbullet in
and then read my post its pretty understandable as u say to all ppl here on forum LOUD Read and unstand
now its your turn.
my english doesnt suck, i talk and would try explain things in a correct and maybe in a incorrect way but atleast people know what i mean
Jeez, people are free to chose if they want to join ps1/2/3/4/5.
What do you want us to do Meh? Force new players to play at ps1 and send all 'highest fraggers' to ps2? If we lose 'pro' players then thats life...
PS community is a place where you get chances to grow in the game and learn the rules. We dont give players lvls because of how much kills they do but how nice they are. Maybe you ain't interested in those couple extra cmds you get but lets face it, many people do care. If 'pro' players leave then thats for a couple of possible reasons and most of them are things no1 can change... We are a community who are open to opinions and to feedback, so please give us a good solution for your so called problems. We can change and adjust.
You're way of talking on servers and the forum sadly doesn't show any constructive pointers. You may be completely zen atm, but i sense a small flavor of arrogance and frustration in the way you behave. Just chill, lay back, smoke some dope and play at ease...
<3
Harpomok
What do you want us to do Meh? Force new players to play at ps1 and send all 'highest fraggers' to ps2? If we lose 'pro' players then thats life...
PS community is a place where you get chances to grow in the game and learn the rules. We dont give players lvls because of how much kills they do but how nice they are. Maybe you ain't interested in those couple extra cmds you get but lets face it, many people do care. If 'pro' players leave then thats for a couple of possible reasons and most of them are things no1 can change... We are a community who are open to opinions and to feedback, so please give us a good solution for your so called problems. We can change and adjust.
You're way of talking on servers and the forum sadly doesn't show any constructive pointers. You may be completely zen atm, but i sense a small flavor of arrogance and frustration in the way you behave. Just chill, lay back, smoke some dope and play at ease...
<3
Harpomok
Evil wrote:let me give u a hint.
read your topic where u called goldenbullet in
and then read my post its pretty understandable as u say to all ppl here on forum LOUD Read and unstand
now its your turn.
my english doesnt suck, i talk and would try explain things in a correct and maybe in a incorrect way but atleast people know what i mean
I only showed GoldenBullet as an example of a player who has been active but isn't no more. Don't hang on one word... there's tons of other players, hell, even LadyInRed barely plays on PS2 lately.
Harpix wrote:Jeez, people are free to chose if they want to join ps1/2/3/4/5.
What do you want us to do Meh? Force new players to play at ps1 and send all 'highest fraggers' to ps2? If we lose 'pro' players then thats life...
PS community is a place where you get chances to grow in the game and learn the rules. We dont give players lvls because of how much kills they do but how nice they are. Maybe you ain't interested in those couple extra cmds you get but lets face it, many people do care. If 'pro' players leave then thats for a couple of possible reasons and most of them are things no1 can change... We are a community who are open to opinions and to feedback, so please give us a good solution for your so called problems. We can change and adjust.
You're way of talking on servers and the forum sadly doesn't show any constructive pointers. You may be completely zen atm, but i sense a small flavor of arrogance and frustration in the way you behave. Just chill, lay back, smoke some dope and play at ease...
<3
Harpomok
I even pointed out a suggestion, most of the people here have ignored it though.
Frustration/being annoyed comes from people misinterpreting my intentions/reasoning's, but it's a temporary outburst and has nothing to do with this topic.
players come and go, its not PS's fault that some ppl decide to leave. something unpredictable happened and all "1337" players went away and not too many came in return, coz this is life. unexpected things happen. and its not really a concern to PS to have rather 1 type of players (1337), but to have variety.
Diamond wrote:players come and go, its not PS's fault that some ppl decide to leave. something unpredictable happened and all "1337" players went away and not too many came in return, coz this is life. unexpected things happen. and its not really a concern to PS to have rather 1 type of players (1337), but to have variety.
And how do you expect to have variety when only new players come in and nothing keeps the old players around?
Diamond wrote:well it doesnt have to be big variety, actually it doesnt matter at all. who cares if there arent any pro's left here. u can always choose another server with your expectations, coz this is just ur prob and not the communities.
How can you say it's not the communities problem when there's no evolution going on? If you think that way, then PS isn't a community, it's more like a training camp. You come, you get better, you leave.
If everyone agrees with this, then you can go ahead and close the topic and I won't bother you no more.
Sorry Meh, but i truly dont see your point...
Dont know what your definition of a community is, but what i see as playing in a community is having fun with people and enjoying your time. If you want to get a extreme 'pro' player then PS nor LL nor any other community does the trick. Then you've got to play etpro. You're suggestion of having more 'funparty's' aint bad, but on a fully crowded server it aint always the wish of every player. I like special things like headshot-only too, but is this truly something that will keep 'pro' players at our servers? the reason why the so called 'pro' people leave? I really have doubts about that.
Evolution is always going on meh... Maybe you just don't notice it...
*sigh*
sleep well
Dont know what your definition of a community is, but what i see as playing in a community is having fun with people and enjoying your time. If you want to get a extreme 'pro' player then PS nor LL nor any other community does the trick. Then you've got to play etpro. You're suggestion of having more 'funparty's' aint bad, but on a fully crowded server it aint always the wish of every player. I like special things like headshot-only too, but is this truly something that will keep 'pro' players at our servers? the reason why the so called 'pro' people leave? I really have doubts about that.
Evolution is always going on meh... Maybe you just don't notice it...
*sigh*
sleep well
Meh wrote:How can you say it's not the communities problem when there's no evolution going on? If you think that way, then PS isn't a community, it's more like a training camp. You come, you get better, you leave.
If everyone agrees with this, then you can go ahead and close the topic and I won't bother you no more.
You seem to not really know what communities are about No one don't really care about your skill, it's not obligatory to take fun from frags (many ppl prefer to throw knife for example). And as soon as your steps are not against community integrity you can even kill yoursellf and noone will even care abt it If you leave server - you are not the part of community quite simple.
And who you are decide that ppl who leave only coz they are too pro are BETTER than ppl who left because other reason, or can't play or even server avg skill is too high.
Most ppl here don't give a damn about your acc or hs rate. And the skill is not the factor which shows who is good or not. kkthxxbb
Edhell wrote:Meh wrote:How can you say it's not the communities problem when there's no evolution going on? If you think that way, then PS isn't a community, it's more like a training camp. You come, you get better, you leave.
If everyone agrees with this, then you can go ahead and close the topic and I won't bother you no more.
You seem to not really know what communities are about No one don't really care about your skill, it's not obligatory to take fun from frags (many ppl prefer to throw knife for example). And as soon as your steps are not against community integrity you can even kill yoursellf and noone will even care abt it If you leave server - you are not the part of community quite simple.
And who you are decide that ppl who leave only coz they are too pro are BETTER than ppl who left because other reason, or can't play or even server avg skill is too high.
Most ppl here don't give a damn about your acc or hs rate. And the skill is not the factor which shows who is good or not. kkthxxbb
Did you even read the topic?
@Harpix:
My point is simple, the community is oriented around new players, nothing else. You can't please everyone, true, but having small events / wars every now and then will make things interesting / new / fun.
- warren-the-ape
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I don't assume anything Meh, your posts here, your behaviour on our servers and your little chat on PS2 sunday night and PS1 last night already paint a pretty nice picture.
There's no point discussing with you cause you already picked your side, your own, and there's no room for opinions from others. Just because you say or think something doesn't make it a fact, it's an assumption and nothing more.
Your example of Goldenbullet is pretty poor to say the least. He's pretty active at PS2 but just because you don't see him playing with his tag and levels doesn't mean he isn't active let alone 'left' the server.
Heck he even enabled a knife and shotgunwar at PS2 last week, or did you miss it?
We take the opinions and suggestions from our regs (or your so-called 'elites') very seriously but respect has to come from both sides, and thats something you should really work on.
The last few weeks I counted several fun initiatives at our servers, from a knifewar at PS2 to a PS vs. the rest fight at PS4 and PS3. Perhaps you should contact some of your 'elites' instead of harassing members and players and working everyone against you with your very thought through ideas..
To conclude; if regs (or any other player for that matter) want a war they are free to ask, however, they have to realise that they're not the only ones on the server.
Again, good luck with your own server and your own community Meh
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There's no point discussing with you cause you already picked your side, your own, and there's no room for opinions from others. Just because you say or think something doesn't make it a fact, it's an assumption and nothing more.
Your example of Goldenbullet is pretty poor to say the least. He's pretty active at PS2 but just because you don't see him playing with his tag and levels doesn't mean he isn't active let alone 'left' the server.
Heck he even enabled a knife and shotgunwar at PS2 last week, or did you miss it?
We take the opinions and suggestions from our regs (or your so-called 'elites') very seriously but respect has to come from both sides, and thats something you should really work on.
The last few weeks I counted several fun initiatives at our servers, from a knifewar at PS2 to a PS vs. the rest fight at PS4 and PS3. Perhaps you should contact some of your 'elites' instead of harassing members and players and working everyone against you with your very thought through ideas..
To conclude; if regs (or any other player for that matter) want a war they are free to ask, however, they have to realise that they're not the only ones on the server.
Again, good luck with your own server and your own community Meh
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"When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend."
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