ET:QW problem, Graphic-card to old?

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Do I have to buy an new Graphic card?

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ET:QW problem, Graphic-card to old?

Postby Scyther » Fri Dec 28, 2007 14:51

Hey I got ET:QW from my christmas present but as you already have read, my graphic card is kinda too old to drive Quake Wars on.

See the console beneath telling me the truth...

The point is; is there a way to put the minimum requirements way under to get bad graphics but atleast I can play the game?

OR do I have to buy an new graphic card and install it on my pc?
if so... that would be very weird, because this isn't a bad pc at all!

Didn't tried my other pc yet, maybe it works there but then I got
argue with my brothers who wants to play. (its an intel pentium 4)

Where it didn't work:
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Microsoft Windows XP
(Home Edition)
Version 2002
Service Pack 2

AMD 64 Athlon : 64 processor
2800+
1.80 GHz, 512 MB
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The problem:
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couldn't exec 'etqwconfig.cfg'
execing 'localization/english/defaultbinds.cfg'
couldn't exec 'etqwbinds.cfg'
execing 'autoexec.cfg'
Vendor:10DE Device:0322
Detected
    1 1.80 GHz CPU
   512 MB of System memory
   128 MB of Video memory on an optimal video architecture

This system qualifies for Low quality.
execing 'specs/minspec.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_cpu.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_gamedetail.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_gpu.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_gpudetail.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_lighting.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_foliage.dat'
Vendor:10DE Device:0322
execing 'specs/minspec_gpu.dat'
execing 'specs/minspec_gpudetail.dat'
execing 'specs/recspec_foliage.dat'
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
...registered window class
...registered fake window class
...calling LoadLibrary( 'opengl32' ): succeeded
...initializing QGL
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
----- R_InitOpenGL -----
...using GL_ARB_multitexture
...using GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
X..GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two not found
...using GL_ARB_texture_compression
...using GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
...using GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
   maxTextureAnisotropy: 8.000000
...using GL_1.4_texture_lod_bias
...using GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette
...using GL_EXT_texture3D
X..GL_EXT_texture_rectangle not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_rectangle not found
...using GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
...using GL_EXT_stencil_two_side
...using GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
...using GL_ARB_vertex_program
...using GL_ARB_fragment_program
X..GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test not found
...using GL_ARB_point_sprite
...using GL_ARB_occlusion_query
X..GL_EXT_framebuffer_object not found
X..GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil not found
...using GL_EXT_blend_minmax
...using GL_ARB_multisample
X..GL_ARB_shader_objects not found
X..GL_ARB_vertex_shader not found
X..GL_ARB_fragment_shader not found
...using GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
...using GL_ARB_shadow
...using GL_ARB_depth_texture
X..GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters not found
********************
ERROR: The current video card / driver combination does not support the necessary features: GL_ARB_texture_rectangle or GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_fragment_shader
********************
--------------- BSE Shutdown ----------------
---------------------------------------------
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...releasing DC
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
Shutting down performance queries
Error during initialization


Any advice? I love to hear!

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Postby Spyhawk » Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:06

What's your video card ?

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Postby Scyther » Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:14

Well my video card is:

NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 :|

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Postby Spyhawk » Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:20

I had the same on my old laptop (not exactly the same, as it was a laptop version (FX Go with 64Mo), but same chip).

And yes, I think it's too old for etqw..
Personally, I dont really like this game. Nice to have some vehicules, nice graphics, nice strategies, but... I prefere the old ET :)

EDIT : I found this :

* 100% DirectX® 9.0c compatable 64MB 3D Hardware Accelerator video card required

Supported Video Cards:

[deleted, wrong list. See Warren post below :)]

The FX 5200 is 9.0c capable, but I dont know if that would be sufficient...
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Postby warren-the-ape » Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:28

SUPPORTED VIDEO CHIPSETS
  • NVIDIA GeforceFX Series (5700 or higher, not including 5700LE and 5700VE)
  • NVIDIA Geforce 6 Series (6200 or higher)
  • NVIDIA Geforce 7 Series (7300 or higher)
  • NVIDIA Geforce 8 Series
  • ATI Radeon 9700 or higher
  • ATI Radeon X700 or higher
  • ATI Radeon X1650 or higher

So you really need to upgrade your gfx card, perhaps pop in some extra memory as well (512mb is pretty minimal).

Edit:
@Spyhawk, not sure if yours was wrong, i got this list from the demo requirements but dont think it changed a lot/anything for the full game.
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Postby Scyther » Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:36

Thanks for helping me, I hope I get an better gfx card soon.. (with my birthday probably.)

Anyway thanks Warren & Spyhawk! :D

oh and btw, my other pc gfx card is:

Medion Radeon 9800 XXL

Thats hopely sufficient to play ET:QW with... :)


-EDIT-

Well probably it isn't sufficient to play ET:QW with!
look at this rare screenshot I made in-game everything is Orange when I join...
This one is off the limbo menu; Can't see the classes... =/

I set Resolution at lowest, quality at lowest, performance at lowest as
possible anything! but it keeps standing on orange...

Do somebody recognize this or, know how to get rid of this?
please I like to hear... :?

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Postby warren-the-ape » Fri Dec 28, 2007 19:10

Try updating your drivers.
Its a known problem in the QW community that earlier ATI (radeon) drivers where causing problems with the game.

Download and install the latest Catalyst drivers for your card;
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

See if it helps :)
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Postby fluffY » Fri Dec 28, 2007 23:55

i saw the list before, but i ask a stupid quest ( duno:D ), can i play ET : QW with Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT. ?! :D

Can i , am i right :D? so i wont bother to buy / download it ifi cant play it :P
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Postby PrimitivE » Sat Dec 29, 2007 0:37

Hi
its not only the GFX card but also the mainprocessor CPU and systemmemory DDRRAM and the speed of it! if you have a 8600GT its nice but if the other components are too slow it wont give you nothing! Also the harddisk read and write speed is important...but when you have SATA (in German) its ok with that! What kind of PC you have? You need to check nearly all components.
And whats the fun with playin QW and you have bad GFX behavior.

for The best PC hardware settings just google.

Hope i could help ya...........

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Postby fluffY » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:46

Well, stoneage i have :

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz 2.33GHz, 2,00 GB of Ram Psychical Address Extension

Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
Version 2002 (:S)
Service pack 2

GeForce 8600 GT
Something more :P ?
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Postby BigRat » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:20

STON34GE wrote:Hi
its not only the GFX card but also the mainprocessor CPU and systemmemory DDRRAM and the speed of it! if you have a 8600GT its nice but if the other components are too slow it wont give you nothing! Also the harddisk read and write speed is important...but when you have SATA (in German) its ok with that! What kind of PC you have? You need to check nearly all components.
And whats the fun with playin QW and you have bad GFX behavior.

for The best PC hardware settings just google.

Hope i could help ya...........

OK, seems right...
BUT: even if U have a lower CPU, and a highend Graphsic, U will able to play ETQW normally.
In fact, Graphics cards are the worse problem for the newest games, not the CPU.
Also RAM is no so important for games. (coz i'ts important for system)
As we all know, Microsoft re medium for all Iis RAM.
Is it trully nedded? We should ask our Linux friends, os OSX friends.
I,ve living all the time with my old pc. (2 years, 2,2 Ghz)
The main think i,ve changed( 2 times) is the graphic processor.
Hopefully i don.t us e a Vista.! hehehe....
Vista friends: behave...

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Postby PrimitivE » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:54

Well, stoneage i have :

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz 2.33GHz, 2,00 GB of Ram Psychical Address Extension

Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition
Version 2002 (:S)
Service pack 2

GeForce 8600 GT
Something more Razz ?


think thats enough....hehe ...have fun with it....

OK, seems right...
BUT: even if U have a lower CPU, and a highend Graphsic, U will able to play ETQW normally.
In fact, Graphics cards are the worse problem for the newest games, not the CPU.
Also RAM is no so important for games. (coz i'ts important for system)
As we all know, Microsoft re medium for all Iis RAM.
Is it trully nedded? We should ask our Linux friends, os OSX friends.
I,ve living all the time with my old pc. (2 years, 2,2 Ghz)
The main think i,ve changed( 2 times) is the graphic processor.
Hopefully i don.t us e a Vista.! hehehe....
Vista friends: behave...


yes right but i didnt mean you need for instance a quadcore CPU
or something
on my laptop i cant play QW its a:
dualcore 1,86 GHz with 1 GB RAM and Geforce 7600
it really sucks

what i meant was that kind of bottleneck if you have components
that cant work well together cause of different bus speeds and so on...

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Postby Union » Sat Dec 29, 2007 13:26

Hm it's not completely true that all you have to do is change the graphics card...GPU, CPU and even ram are connected in a special way :)
If the graphics card is designed to work with a quadcore and you have a c2d 1,8ghz (for example) the graphics card won't work as it should (yes you'll be able to play the game normaly, but instead of 200FPS, you'll get 50 or 60)
You can combine the CPU and GPU in a certain level (low-end CPU with a med-end GPU, but it won't work if you use a low-end CPU with a high-end GPU)
It's allways better to follow the minimum specs for the graphics card :)

Besides, it use to be that all you needed was a RAM upgrade, then in a few years, all you needed was a GPU upgrade...now you have to upgrade all the things for a game to work :P
(besides, some games need a lot of RAM to work...ArmA pushed the counter up to 1,9G :o QW around 500/600 - depends on maps etc)

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Postby Scyther » Sun Dec 30, 2007 16:08

warren-the-ape wrote:Try updating your drivers.
Its a known problem in the QW community that earlier ATI (radeon) drivers where causing problems with the game.

Download and install the latest Catalyst drivers for your card;
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

See if it helps :)


Thanks Warren!!! It works now, look:

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No orange graphics anymore, it was a big job updating my drivers since
I had to restart my computer like 3 times to completely uninstall the old driver. Then suddenly after some hours it worked out and everything seems to be OK in-game! Thanks alot!

ps: didn't knew landser had same problem but luckily my computer can
takes it, on the edge! http://www.prime-squadron.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4076
I hope landser get a better computer :cry:

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