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Recoilscripts wheee

Postby Jen » Fri Apr 10, 2009 17:02

Name: PantyPants (usually i play with Niik)
Banreason: Recoilscript
Explanation:

I got banned for using recoilscript with sniper, what i never did. Banner was Bowdown i think.
So first, could you guys tell me what i am accused of? Some demo would be nice too.
For me, recoilscript means that there isnt any recoil at all when shooting scoped.
If you guys have a demo, you see that i have recoil. I just pull it back very quickly so i can shoot faster.

I use a sniperscript yes, but it has nothing to do with recoilscripts. I have made it myself and theres nothing illegal there, just few common cvar tweaks (it doesnt recude recoil, just helps me to pull the mouse back).
I have binded my sniper settings to one key (m_pitch 0.3-0.5, sensitivity 4.0 and max_fps 43)
And when im not sniping, i have binded my normal settings to other key, so i can change it fast.

Now about those commands, none of them should be unallowed. M_pitch is mousesetting, higher value means that my mouse moves faster up-down than left-right, so its easier to pull back the mouse after shooting.
Sensitivity is just the setting how fast your mouse moves. With sniper, i play with 3x higher sensitivity than with other weapons, so its easier to pull mouse back.
And com_maxfps is just the setting for framerate. When sniping i set it to 43, cus the recoil is smallest with that. If playing with 200, my crosshair jumps to sky after shooting, no matter what my other settings are. Thats why i limit it to 43.
If there is something wrong with those settings, just tell me and i can stop using that/them.

I would really appreciate it if someone could try to snipe with these settings and see for yourself.
/com_maxfps 43
/m_pitch 0.3
and higher sensitivity than your usual one.
And as a hint, pull your mouse down just a little before you shoot, this way you can shoot the second shot faster.
I hope i could get unbanned, cus afaik i did nothing wrong.

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Postby BOWDOWN » Fri Apr 10, 2009 18:00

First, an amazing think as you will see it in the demo, there were 2 players with pretty same nicks :

[et_code]^nPartyPants[/et_code]

and [et_code]^NPantyPants[/et_code]

When Evil asked me to spec the suspected player, he did a mistake and told us to spec "PartyPants", we did it and indeed we noticed a looks like AntiRecoil script and he was banned. Then we saw that you was still in game (no one of us noticed befor that there were 2 players with pretty same name), so we thought about a namehacker etc ... the amzing think is that when i finaly began specing you "PantyHouse", you was using exactly same think than the first banned player :wink: . So, don t know if you know this dude or no but i see something strange there :wink: .

Now about the demo, i watched it again and still looks like a antirecoil script for me (you can have a small recoil even with an antirecoil script :wink: ).

The only way to be sure about your version, is to test it by my own, so will contact you to send me your exact bind, since that the ban will stay.

Demo link : http://rapidshare.com/files/219722152/party.dm_84.html

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Postby Jen » Fri Apr 10, 2009 19:02

What do you guys mean with "antirecoil" or "recoilscript"? A program that is injected to ET (cheat or whatever), or some combination of commands, or something else?
I want to know what im accused of, cus "sniperscript" can mean so many different things, most of them harmless

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Postby BOWDOWN » Fri Apr 10, 2009 19:24

I simply mean a No Recoil or antirecoil script you can easily find in the net :wink: , wont explain how it works here but think you already know what i m talking about. Btw, i know that it can be a touchy one as some concider it as a cheat and some not , personaly i m against it and don t allow it since it give a you a clear advantage.

Btw, more gloably, script or not i m pretty against it as it give you an advantage in the game. When you are level 9 cover your recoil is naturaly reudced, i see no reason to have more than something avaliable by the game itself.

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Postby Jen » Fri Apr 10, 2009 20:22

Only reason why i use my "script" is cus i play with low m_pitch normally (without sniper), so i have to pull my mouse very much down and it is frustrating.
That fps setting gives an advantage yes, i agree. Many pb servers (if not all) blocks it, since it reduces recoil quite much.
But still, its just a simple cvar. Anyway i can stop using it if you want so, i just want to play at PS1 again.

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Postby Evil » Fri Apr 10, 2009 20:45

hey there,
it was me who tell bow indeed about those recoil thing.

well ive no more to say then what bow did,
and the demo u saw was from me.

but ive a few things to say.
iam hate also to bring my aim down everything its fustrating i know
we all know.
but to use those cvar issnt a best option.
since u also reply now that some pb servers wont allow this mean u also get an ban then ?
if yes then i would ask if u know pb ban for this cvar why u use it on ps1?
anywayz i know its crap cause that bring me down aiming.

but to give that an reason to use it its bit low.
many ppl under me dislike it thats why iam not covertops at all.

and about the unban i dont know what bow want or think about it.
so lets wait for his turn.

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Postby Jen » Fri Apr 10, 2009 20:58

Pb doesnt ban for fps settings, its just a cvar value that must be inside x-x. If you dont have, pb will warn you for cvar violation first, and then kick if you dont change it. Like i said, its just a simple setting, that can be used (abused) to get less recoil.

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Postby eLemenT » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:13

so i know that i am not really allowed to post in this case
but i have sth to say:

so if this player use settings like he/she said :p
so its NOT an anti recoil script
u can really see it as a cfg for snipers (normal cfgs are allowed why not this one?)

lets explain why:
an anti recoil script push ur mouse down.. (after a click) and you dont have to pull ur mouse down
in the case of that player its not like that - even if he/she has settings like m_pitch or com_maxfps he/she has to put his mouse down (like every player)

its like a cfg atm some have better cfg with better cvars
others have worser ones
or players can play with m_pitch 0.016 better than with m_pitch 0.022, almost same like here

just if jen say it like that its not a script (setting: m_pitch nd com_maxfps only + they are allowed here, its NOT a pb server if you dont want this u have to enable pb, or make a rule against it.. <- which wont help in anyway)

hope u guys wont punish me here bc im not really allowed to post here but thats how i see it atm..,


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Postby Jen » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:17

Im unbanned already. I dont use recoilscripts, but Bowdow said it gives too much advantage anyway.
And i dont want to argue with Bowdown, if he doesnt want me to use it here, thats fine i wont.

!slap Flash (heres your punishment) :p

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