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Bethino ???

Postby Uauaua » Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:40

Hi, i'm palle....now i'm palledemo......uauauauau.......

I did a demo of Bethino.... I had not yet understood how a player with 300 ping can often killing spree,dominating.....When i have 100/120 ping i always see in slow motion....In this demo i often see that shoots far from enemy, but takes it anyway:
- 23:32
- 23:13
- 22:57
- 21:44
- 21:29
- 20:59
- 20:10
- 19:33
- 18:59
- 18:24
- 17:30
To watch this video download it and save it in the folder: Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory / noquarter /demos. Run et enemy and into the main console choose the mod no quarter. After loaded the mod go to replay and select this video.
To see what I'm saying, you ( those for who don't know ) need to lower the timescale in the menu (democontrols) of demo with keys kp_left "4" to lower the timescale or kp_left "6" to increase the key .. "5" is normal speed timescale = 1 (removing the bloc_num in keyboard to run). You see a fight in minutes indicated above the speed of the timescale of 0,2 / 0,3.

At minute 20 : 59 can see good that i say......This is impossible....he shoot in right side of screen without meet enemy and kill a poor k-light anyway.

thanks to those who can give me an explanation......

http://rapidshare.com/files/354693514/2 ... e_b3.dm_84

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Postby Betinho » Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:52

i invite you to play in some south american server, you with 300 ping and me with 50, you will play normal anyway. because the high ping is for the distance, not for lag or bad connection (well my normal ping is 290, i have to admit with more than 320 im lag). Anyway, please stop acuse me of cheat coz thats not true. but i will take like a compliment :D

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Postby Uauaua » Tue Feb 23, 2010 17:09

bethino my answer is not a problem of ping....is that i see in demo....see you too...i want see how you explain at minute 20:59....is a wind that allows shoot k-light ?

i don't acuse nobody.....i want only explanation......if this is cheat.... there are admin... it will your problem.....

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Postby Uauaua » Tue Feb 23, 2010 17:27

ehm...ping is important....is a measure of speed...if 2 players with one 50 and other 300 shoot in the same time who has a ping at 300 is dead before second shoot....Lag is another thing...."slow motion " is for explain that i don't see one shoot that i'm already dead.....

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Postby Betinho » Tue Feb 23, 2010 17:34

Uauaua wrote:bethino my answer is not a problem of ping....is that i see in demo....see you too...i want see how you explain at minute 20:59....is a wind that allows shoot k-light ?

i don't acuse nobody.....i want only explanation......if this is cheat.... there are admin... it will your problem.....


I remember that situation, klight was hide in some place, something like a sewer, so i can see where he were. i hope you can understand now im not cheating, not wh, nothing, i sux :D

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Postby Uauaua » Tue Feb 23, 2010 17:45

no bethino....see a video.....that is other thing......you don't want understand.....why ?..... :twisted:
scared...?..:))

ok now i close.....wait admin reply or other players.....

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Postby flow » Tue Feb 23, 2010 19:11

can you upload it to prime squadron file upload place :/
rapidshare servers are almost allways full...
so it needs premium account to download

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Postby toivoa » Tue Feb 23, 2010 19:22

ET has some nifty thing called antilag. It makes you actually hit where you aim at though ofcourse with the delay based on how high the ping is.
It's still not perfect ofcourse since sometimes you get hit behind walls and hitregistration is very different, but if you get used to it it shouldn't be much of a problem to get to atleast 80% of your regular skill with decent ping.

Note: I haven't checked the demo or anything, just replying on the question why you can play good with such a high ping.

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Postby Uauaua » Tue Feb 23, 2010 19:28


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Postby Audio » Wed Feb 24, 2010 0:10

A ping of 300 is playable, but personally any higher then that and i notice it.
Thats like, over half a second delay? A spree should be no trouble.
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Postby hdoubls » Wed Feb 24, 2010 0:11

Demo downloaded and seen 100% :)
Firstly i want 2 say that its really nice too see u playing Beti, for me the best player :)
So there are no doubts that he cheats or something, in the Demo he killed and die 2
For information Uauaua, Betinho is old here in prime squadron and he has the highest experience, so its normal if he plays better then any player!
No, BETINHO is not a CHEATER :!:
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Postby LyoLevi » Wed Feb 24, 2010 0:24

So an answer for ur question.
a 50 ping player get the infos faster as a 300 png's player. I remember when i played on American servers. I give hs while i dont point to my enemy head like i get death over miles a corner. Yes the ping is the key. Beti can get better whit timenudge -50 but it couse lags for other player and this is why it is disallowed.

Ps:sorry for my bed english and if u dont understand i ll explain better for u.

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Postby Xand3r » Wed Feb 24, 2010 0:26

ofcourse betihno isn't a cheater i saw the record too and it was just good work beti :)
he is noth a cheater so lock it up
and the ping is just of the distance between the server and himself ;)

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Postby Evil » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:29

LyoLevi wrote: Beti can get better whit timenudge -50 but it couse lags for other player and this is why it is disallowed.


timenudge will show you negative ping cause issues like u say here above.
but the point is also we allow ppl with max 400-450 ping.
and some nolivers just use timenudge to hide their own real ms / ping they got.

but useally nothing change if u use nudge or not.

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Postby ape » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:33

Hello..

This make me laugh hahaha :lol:
People think of good players/member's or whatever that they are cheating :o , why??
Betinho is just skilled man who know how to kill in ET 8) Beti just take this as a compliment of course you know hehe :)
Anyway I dont beleave that members cheating.. 8O

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Postby on1 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:20

ape wrote:Anyway I dont beleave that members cheating.. 8O


its sad to think they might :roll: and they do :crazy:

ontopic no hax...luv u betty :P
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Postby Sebbel » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:07

uauaua
to give a neutral answer without seeing anything

ONE suspicious situation is never enough to ask for an explanation or even to accuse..
it can be have been just luck.
if you see every 20 seconds such strange / lucky /suspicious action than its useful to ask here for explain
sometimes you lose - sometimes the others win

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Postby Uauaua » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:46

Ok...i see that is useless.....I'm not people....i'm Palle :roll: and I play on Et long time.....I saw Betinho when he started play here and i know how he played....This replies are based only on problem of ping and on Betinho admin without comment demo.....I see a video at minute 20:59 where he shoot in the wall ( see 2 bullets in timescale 0,2, that its go in the wall ) far to enemy and in same time he kill k-light. This is the situation...The ping high can't create this. Nobody in this post explain how it's possible...( reference to video ) then if exist another explanation i are here for read this.

Ape..... there are many examples of good old players that take ban for cheat.....

If Betinho has cheat or not for me is same....I play for fun....

Now let you because i must go in bathroom, i hope don't clog it 8O ........

Peace and love,
your dear beautiful good Palle....

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Postby FlowerPower » Wed Feb 24, 2010 13:24

toivoa wrote:ET has some nifty thing called antilag. It makes you actually hit where you aim at though ofcourse with the delay based on how high the ping is.
It's still not perfect ofcourse since sometimes you get hit behind walls and hitregistration is very different, but if you get used to it it shouldn't be much of a problem to get to atleast 80% of your regular skill with decent ping.


Palle, this is the answer that you are looking for, already written in this topic.

And about common hacks, we have a nice collection of demos ( http://www.prime-squadron.com/littledick/ ), maybe you can take a look and see how a real Aimbot or Wallhack works :wink:

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Postby Kyrillion » Thu Feb 25, 2010 23:43

i think if Beti started using cheats we'd notice because he'd get worse eventually, use cheats, and you dont learn *beep*, use the beti way and you will kick ass before the german can say periwinkle.

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Postby -Gighen- » Thu Feb 25, 2010 23:49

Kyrillion wrote:i think if Beti started using cheats we'd notice because he'd get worse eventually, use cheats, and you dont learn *beep*, use the beti way and you will kick ass before the german can say periwinkle.

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