Parachute @ VIP map

by **GokuSan** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 16:50

Hey,
I was on my brother's account for a minute and I saw xochi arguing heavily about using the parachute on VIP map.
He was crying the whole time and annoying people off about using the parachute on that map while the actual map was Casino.

He's calling it a bug because you can't hit people from the front while they are with the parachute while I clearly shot someone down once when I was playing.

Is it possible to sort this out? Because this ain't the first time I see argues about that.

by **xochi** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 16:54

that is what i now mean now you insult me with crying and all can you not say it on a normal way. And you shot him in the back there you can hit him but not from front or side. so technicaly it is a bug.

greetz xochi

by **GokuSan** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 17:00

xochi wrote:that is what i now mean now you insult me with crying and all can you not say it on a normal way. And you shot him in the back there you can hit him but not from front or side. so technicaly it is a bug.

greetz xochi

I'm just saying what is true, wuju should approve me.
It's not a bug, it's about hitboxes; the guy is "moving" in the air, it's like when someone's jumping, he ain't easy to hit.

Learn to aim.

by **wuju** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 17:03

Xochi u talk about it since about hour i think, useing still one argument.

The way u talk is not better than that what now u call insults

"that is what i now mean now you insult me with crying and all can you not say it on a normal way"

I wont quote your words but u expect from others "normal way" but rly u
dont use it so i think all should relax and take that topic rly easy.

On topic.
My opinion:

Useing this parachute is part of VIP map and its alowed,
u said that it is bug, its not.

Its not map error, it is one of the ways u can use.
Have u ever seen somebody warned about useing it?
For me its clear.

by **Plastic_Jesus** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 17:44

It is a bug and the map is total failure because of that. Why to make people unhitable when someone is shooting at you. That is guite ridiculous.
In my opinion this map should be changed to another map.

-*S

by **wuju** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 17:48

i understand bug is some map error,

parachute dont look like error.

by **Plastic_Jesus** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 18:12

It is unfair that you can't shoot that guy with parachute but s(he) can shoot you. It is same as you could be inside a wall and shoot through that to guys and they can't hit you. So it looks like a map error for me.

by **GokuSan** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 18:17

Saukko wrote:It is unfair that you can't shoot that guy with parachute but s(he) can shoot you. It is same as you could be inside a wall and shoot through that to guys and they can't hit you. So it looks like a map error for me.

It is possible to shoot him, just don't aim at the head.. Even from the front it's possible to hit the guy.

by **wuju** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 18:31

Saukko wrote:It is unfair that you can't shoot that guy with parachute but s(he) can shoot you. It is same as you could be inside a wall and shoot through that to guys and they can't hit you. So it looks like a map error for me.

Like Goku said its posible to kill that guy. While u fly u cant use some weapons and u can be killed from all sides

by **Evil** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 18:44

Saukko wrote:It is unfair that you can't shoot that guy with parachute but s(he) can shoot you. It is same as you could be inside a wall and shoot through that to guys and they can't hit you. So it looks like a map error for me.

love to see ppl act shortly what they think (saukko

) and specialy xochi who often these days whine about (lets say everything?)

but thats not the point i try to make here the map is alrdy in rotation along time now.
and atm now i see ppl start whining imo get a life and deal with today issue as nobody ever complain about it.
and nor i dont see a reason to change it. coz 1 say its bug so lets change.

i can life with that issue as many others.. and btw its only a game errors and bugs are always in all maps

by **Plastic_Jesus** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 19:26

It is not first time I say about this bug. If you think it's not bug tell me where I must exactly shoot to hit this bug user. Because I have tried to shooot toes, chest, body, head... exactly to say from everywhere but without any hits.

by **MiLady** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 21:19

In my opinion this bug is ok xd
It would be nonsense use parachute for so long distance when enemy can kill you in air. It's a bit unfair for allies, but at least at the same moment only 2-3 can use parachute.

by **Ajit** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 21:38

Saukko wrote:It is unfair that you can't shoot that guy with parachute but s(he) can shoot you.

exactly, its unfair but it's not bug.
Unfair is not a bug. :rofl:

Unfair teams are not bug

i lolled :loller:

by **wuju** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 21:50

You loled HARD !

Ontopic.

Ill say that once more u can kill dude with parachute.

by **Evil** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 21:53

never try that thing.
but still to whine now to change coz of it imo its should stay.
and saukko if u post it many times id like to know where u did it.
as i didnt read anything bout this so called issue then this topic of today.

by **Smadje** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 22:04

I do not see that as a bug. Do you guys think that the parachute would have any use when you could be hit using it? One sniper is enough to kill them all. In a parachute you cannot move, so you can''t chase any enemy. Just hide behind a simple box if someone comes by parachute and you even can't be hit.

Even if it is a bug, i am happy that people cannot be hit using the parachute

by **xochi** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 22:40

it would be much better if it was something like a airplane so that he cant hit us and we cant hit him. Then it would be fair for both players. like in glider there you can shoot only from door to them, but you can get hit if you stand in door.

With parachute you can shoot the person, but he cant hit you , only when you stand behind him. but point is to get behind him you have to go past wall and there are the outher axis guys.

So he shoots you and you cant hit him. And that is in my opiniun a bug.
And with the whining sorry for that but have a hard time lately in real life so that causes my stress and the game is something where i try to let the stress go.

As you know me from the past there I am relaxes I just have sometimes the periods where i am more angry then normal.So sorry for that, but for going back to subject it still is a bug.

greetz xochi

by **wuju** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 23:03

Its not true i was testing it today and i died while was flying from many other sides
and other players can confirm that. Why u call it bug, its map maker solution to
make those parachutes sense. Without that it would be totaly useles stuff.
Something is not fair doesnt mean its bug. I mean that i never warned anybody
because he use parachute, never saw anybody else doing it. Its just alowed in
this map. We have to live with that

Imo whole that discusion going nowhere because map is fine for most ppl,
and thats the most important think.

About your behaviour, u know all ppl got real life and real problems, but all
of us join servers to get some fun and realy dont need whole that whine - story.
When u see that somebody all the time write "lucker, rape" and whole rest
it rly make you confused. Try to separate your real life from game and
do what is Prime Squadron comunity made for - HAVE FUN.

Thats all

Cya in servers

by **Fefe** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 0:31

xochi wrote:it would be much better if it was something like a airplane so that he cant hit us and we cant hit him. Then it would be fair for both players. like in glider there you can shoot only from door to them, but you can get hit if you stand in door.

In glider u can also hit from windows of the plane and the plane gives a kinda unfair advancement to allies doesnt it ?

ONTOPIC : Never happend that i missed someone on that map as u say those who use parashoot included so i dont think its a bug or maybe it happens sometimes and sometimes it doesnt

who know

by **xochi** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:21

yes fefe sometimes, at the map it happens that you cant hit him from front , try to go up the building where they land he and shoot at them a bit before they land, you will see you cant hit them but they can hit you. That is what i found out.

greetz xochi

by **Hazardous** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:42

At first I didnt care so much about this, then I read all this...

I just say that I agree with Evil a bit here.

I can understand if people want to disable a map because of the bug destroying the whole map, but the bug in VIP, isnt how you say, controlling the mission.
Its like the "bug" or whatever you want to call it in Bacerace in the middlebuilding where you can stand on the roof and then look down and almost see through the whole building, spotting enemies when they climb up the ladder.
It gives you great vision about your enemies (almost like a sort of wallhack) but it doesnt controls the mission.

One other thing, I'm maybe abit slow now.. ( like usual )
but it seems like you guys arent getting anywhere, all you do, is arguing with eachother, about this shit.
That is all, you are arguing about it beeing a bug or not, it doesnt matter, many many other PS maps has bugs in it, and they are still here?

Personally I think its ok to continue have VIP here on the server because this "bug" or whatever you call this crap, isnt controlling the whole mission.

But I wont talk about it more because, if I want something to happen, I should write more to an HA.

Not start some form of meaningless debate here, insulting eachother using "the last word" and all that pathetic shit.

by **wuju** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:16

Not start some form of meaningless debate here, insulting eachother using "the last word" and all that pathetic shit.

It is not meaningless when u try to explain some things to each other.
Our forum is made for such a talks.. its PS1 discusion and that topic was started
in server. Landed here because server chat is not best place to talk about
is it or isnt it bug. Dont rly know what u mean with your "patethic shit" ..

by **Hazardous** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:57

I'll have to apologize for my mood yesterday, having a hard time now with an upcoming funeral etc etc in my life, so it was wrong about me taking it out in this topic.
I am sorry.

The thing that I meant was meaningless ( and also Pathetic) is debating using "the last word" to insult eachother, not to discuss normally and behave more like grown up people.
So, only about the insulting thing, not talking about this problem.

I know that this is a topic to talk about stuff like this and as I also wrote that itÂ´s good that you bring things up like this, but I just felt when reading all this that, its just too much.
Some of you have been trying to "explain" things to eachother but noone seems to understand, or want to open their mind to understand the problem.

I just saw this as an neverending discussion because, you all gave your point of view, which is good.

But no one gave more details on how to fix it?
Example: Saukko and other people wanted to know how to kill the guy/girl in the parachute, no one gave those (more detailed) tips so you could end this discussion.

It looks to me that you all want to fix this problem so everyone will be happy, but no one does it, all you do is talking wether it's a bug, or not...

And if it is a bug, so what? Other maps has bugs, as I said, its like the bug in Bacerace.

If you want to help eachother, dont care about if its a little bug or not.
Talk about how you can fix it in the best way so everyone will be happy with the result, or atleast think "Well OK, I can live with it for now!".

That was my point of all, when I meant this was meaningless, I once again talked to some special people here on this topic that were insulting and patronizing.

Patronizing is just meaningless , it's better for those (who were doing it, I wont say who.) to just, talk about the problem, not telling people to learn to aim, telling people that they are blind etc etc.

by **eLemenT** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:32

Its like the "bug" or whatever you want to call it in Bacerace in the middlebuilding where you can stand on the roof and then look down and almost see through the whole building, spotting enemies when they climb up the ladder.
It gives you great vision about your enemies (almost like a sort of wallhack) but it doesnt controls the mission.

Well, as i am a lover of those rulebook comparements..
you are talking clearly against your rulebook.

Donâ€™t use map bugs, exploits or secret rooms.

It's clearly a mapbug/exploit.
Written in rulebook.. and should be disallowed therefor.
I know.. it would be difficult to spec n stuff.

I didn't see that 'bug' whatever in that vip "parachute" map..

by **xochi** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:41

I agree with element because I also said that it stands in rulebook that Bug using is not allowed.

And hazard i said maybe not a parachute but a airplane so you cant shoot against eachoter and so on. and in glider if you try to hit the guy via the window it is pretty hard fefe because the glider is moving and windows are not that big. I tryed, ah and gokusan said in begin learn to aim well I think that i have a regular aim so that isnt about it and is more insulting for me.

offtopic:
I am also a guy that follows the rules but sometimes the admins (no offense) start to twist and turn the rules. that is very crapy for the people because a while ago I was playing on ps1.
And suddenly they said thet giving the mortar guy the whole time ammo and stand by him the most time was farming. I thought oke then because a member said it.

But now later i saw that it happend again and it was a member that was mortar guy, and then he says that it is not farming.

I am sorry but what is it now first it is then it isnt.

greetz xochi

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