PS members

by **Xulux** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 20:30

I have a question. PS members can do things that normal member cant? can PS members insulting others player, spam at chat all time, mute players and don't tell them why? Can PS members put some players to others team, when they are in the same? Can they answer to all players when you asked him something on prv? Something what is your buisness?

Waiting for answer.

by **Ammz** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 20:39

Yup.

Edit, answer to down below: Is Yep, yes, or nodding good enough for you?
Clearly you are a bit angry, why don't you calm down a little bit and ... uhm tell us with screenshots and pure examples what the problems is?

by **Xulux** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 20:39

Yup? Can write English?

by **icefrost** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 20:55

yes. no. yes. yes. depends.

by **Xulux** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:01

Ah, So yes:) Thanks that is what i want know. Just it, sometimes on PS was good play, but if this is how it is there, mean answer yes on my question. Its bad... So bye. I will not play on server when PS member can everything normal player can nothing, and it is justice....

by **Smadje** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:07

Xulux wrote:Ah, So yes:) Thanks that is what i want know. Just it, sometimes on PS was good play, but if this is how it is there, mean answer yes on my question. Its bad... So bye. I will not play on server when PS member can everything normal player can nothing, and it is justice....

Prime-squadron members have the same rules as players. If you are treated in a wrong way, please tell. Maybe you do not understand a situation, if that is the case, we can explain it to you.

Smad

by **zombie** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:09

Yea, well grow up.

"Jacky are you an idiot" You said that like 5 times
"Can every idiot be a PS member?"

PS members can do things that normal member cant?

Can do what? Insult other people? Yes we can but it's not allowed though. You can insult to, but it's forbidden aswell. Can PS members SK? Yes they can, you can too but for both sides it's forbidden

Can PS members insulting others player, spam at chat all time, mute players and don't tell them why

Like I have told you several times: stupid behaviour. It seems that you haven't read the rules otherwise you should have been able to detect it yourself.

Can they answer to all players when you asked him something on prv

Why not? Are you ashamed of your behaviour? If yes, change it. Otherwise I don't see the problem. If it's really necessary to talk in private, I do so.

I will not play on server when PS member can everything normal player can nothing, and it is justice....

Bullshit.

Suggestion: http://www.prime-squadron.com/modules/rulebook

by **FALBIK** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:23

icefrost wrote:yes. no. yes. yes. depends.

ice knows Morse'a :lol:

by **Plastic_Jesus** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:35

Xulux wrote:Can they answer to all players when you asked him something on prv?

In this I want to answer that we in this case we PS members, we are humans. And we are players and we want to play ET. That's why we are here, to play this game. There are some changes why we don't answer to pms sometimes. We want to play the game and forget the admining for while or then there are so many other mess around, f.e rulebreaking. Or then they are AFK or just don't want to answer to any pm.

I myself try to answer to every pm as soon as possible when I get one.

-*S

by **Xulux** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:44

Smadje explain it for what, when you play you don't see what some ps are doing? Talk with them its like loosing time, cause ps members everything knows better, and they are rite all the time, they see only that what they want to see, its normal... They said change teams? Yes but only if they playing in team wich have less players... If you start to please, they can mute you, said its SPAM, or just say how one ps to me, that i never change teams, but say "teams" all time... Whatever if i'm one of only couple guys who is changing, even to worse team... Whatever they just see what they want... Some guys was insult me 2 times some maps ago, i have to go for moment, when i come back was angry, and asked him he is an idiot? But not when he insult me, ps didn't see this, cause why? But if i Asked him they started to see... Give me mute... When then ased why they give me mute, one of them didn't want why, secend said that ps can do whatever they want. They cant normal talk... Then one of players called me child and something, one saying me to shut up( but he was spam and is spam all time). And what? PS saw these? Oooo maybe the just play? And didn't saw? Cause they see only what they want to see, they do whatever they want to do.. There is no justice, cause ps members are unpunished...

see this Zombie cant normall talk, he just said you grow up, or "I don't talk with you, You must grow, you are to stupid, i just know better...."

by **Xulux** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 21:46

Saukko you doesn't understand me... Its about I was writing on prv, but they answer me on all chat... All time...

by **FALBIK** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 22:07

Xulux ... hmm i read u post and think u angry in Smadje ... beacuse punish only U ....
read again Saukko post ... all situations diferents we no have "rulez" for all stupid moments ... if member afk .. possible no see all bad situation only u bad baheve ..so punish only U ...

Some guys was insult me 2 times some maps ago, i have to go for moment, when i come back was angry, and asked him he is an idiot?

think good behave ? knows answer . :wink:

better moved to forum and opened topic "like this" , and waiting by PS members/admin solved problem

Cause they see only what they want to see, they do whatever they want to do.. There is no justice, cause ps members are unpunished...

rly ? how man times u see that problem ?

by **MiLady** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 22:13

Xulux, I would like to help you, but it would be easier, if you post some screenschoots/demo.

Rulebook is for everyone, PS members and players. If someone break it, then he's punished. The worst if it's PS member. It isn't like PS members are untouchable. IF you have problem with one of PS member, please make demo/screenshoot. Otherwise it's useless whining, because we can do nothing. It's the same when player make SK and someone post in on forum. Without prooves we can do nothing.

One more time: Rulebook is for everyone. If someone insulted you etc. and you want punish him, then you have to post screenshoots/demo.

I hope it's clear. Crying and stomping on the floor won't help both of sides.

by **Smadje** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 22:21

Xulux wrote:When you play you don't see what some ps are doing? Talk with them its like loosing time, cause ps members everything knows better, and they are rite all the time

Prime-Squadron Members are chosen for their fair play, knowledge off the rulebook, and communicative skills, and many other factors. Decissions taken by members from prime-squadron will be in nearly every case right, and fair. When you are getting treated in a wrong way, i suggest you to make an topic in the section "report admin abuse" on our forums, make sure you got enough evidence. Like chatlog, demo's or screenshots.

Xulux wrote:They said change teams? Yes but only if they playing in team wich have less players..

PS members are not the only one who should even up the teams. Besides that this is untrue, most off time the teams will get evened by members.

Xulux wrote:If you start to please, they can mute you, said its SPAM, or just say how one ps to me, that i never change teams, but say "teams" all time... Whatever if i'm one of only couple guys who is changing, even to worse team... Whatever they just see what they want...

Great that you keep an eye on the teams, I appreciate that.

Xulux wrote:Some guys was insult me 2 times some maps ago, i have to go for moment, when i come back was angry, and asked him he is an idiot? But not when he insult me, ps didn't see this, cause why? But if i Asked him they started to see... Give me mute... When then ased why they give me mute, one of them didn't want why, secend said that ps can do whatever they want. They cant normal talk... Then one of players called me child and something, one saying me to shut up( but he was spam and is spam all time). And what? PS saw these? Oooo maybe the just play? And didn't saw? Cause they see only what they want to see, they do whatever they want to do.. There is no justice, cause ps members are unpunished...

Solve this with Zombie himself. Just ask him polite to have a talk, here on forum or in game. I hope i gave you enough information for now.

by **Toup** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 22:45

Xulux, i think you are missing the point here, the members keep order and make everything to ashure all the fun possible to the guests on the server, can you imagine a server where all the "normal" players could shuffle the teams and ban/kick someone?
And i don't think they let any fool have the -Â¦PSÂ¦- behind his name.
Anyways, i just think you're being unfair, don't take this like an offense, it's just my opinion.

Toup

by **FALBIK** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 22:59

ahh i forgot .. have x fired . ? find me ,and we can speak meybe solved/explain some point u

by **zombie** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 0:04

Eye for an eye toothfor a tooth? No how should I know jack insulted you? The only thing I have seen from you today was insulting and provoking.

And BTW its totally bullshit that you can't talk with me. Be glad it was a mute only. Also shit happens life with it. You also insulted ps members, did I insult you back? Not really. You don't get the point of growing up I see. What I meant with that is: when someone does something with you, you can do it back. This is the childish way. Be an adult or normal player and send a PM to us instead of bullying eachother.

It seems you have problems with this. Fine but don't expect me to be nice then.

by **Death** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 0:10

[et_code]18:34:58 Xulux^7: ^2Can someone tell jacky that he is idiot from me when he comes?
18:35:10 draku^7: ^2xulux
18:35:14 draku^7: ^2shut, the f*ck up
18:35:15 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2tell who?
18:35:15 draku^7: ^2please
18:35:24 Xulux^7: ^2shut up draku
18:35:25 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2ahhh
18:35:29 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2just both shut up
18:35:33 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2both shush
18:35:33 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Shut up kwadraat :>
18:35:47 jacky^7: ^2what s your problem xulux?
18:35:52 jacky^7: ^2bad day?
18:35:54 Xulux^7: ^2are you idiot?
18:36:05 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2!mute xul 5m shut up. Thanks in advance
18:36:05 ^dmute: ^*Xulux ^9has been muted for 300 seconds
18:36:13 ^8Donald Duck The Capitalist^7: ^2calm down man, seriously!
18:36:17 jacky^7: ^2well looking to how you talk , imo better ask yourself
18:36:46 jacky^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3you guys can t mute him for insults?^7
18:36:58 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7 -> jacky^7: (1 recipients^7): ^3already done^7
18:37:16 jacky^7 -> ps|^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3well thanks then, he is realy a pain in the ass dude^7
18:41:56 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3why you mute me?^7
18:42:00 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2ehm because
18:42:04 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2what do you think Xulux?
18:42:07 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Stupid behaviour
18:42:12 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3tell me^7
18:42:21 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7 -> xulux^7: (1 recipients^7): ^3he just did -_-^7
18:42:50 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3yes ps can do whatever they want, just cause like it?^7
18:42:55 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2No
18:42:55 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2yea xulux
18:43:07 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2we like to mute people for no reason :S
18:43:11 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2+1
18:43:12 draku^7: ^2yep
18:43:22 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3seens all idiot can be ps...^7
18:43:35 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2yes .. look at headhunterz :P
18:43:38 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2everyone can
18:43:50 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2well it seems we welcome idiots to play here too
18:43:55 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2if you want to play the game like that
18:43:59 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3maybe for you its funny not for me... ^7
18:44:01 jacky^7: ^2?
18:44:13 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Xulux: do me a favor, think before you write
18:44:25 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2actually what you write is ridiculous.
18:44:48 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3can you start thinking? cause you dont it lokk like^7
18:44:51 jacky^7: ^2pity i can t see this , looks like a funny discussion :)
18:45:06 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Well in your eyes maybe
18:45:07 Xulux^7: ^2shut up jacky idiot
18:45:13 jacky^7: ^2:)
18:45:20 jacky^7: ^2dude you realy have a problem
18:45:22 jacky^7: ^2realy
18:45:24 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3in eyes of normal people..^7
18:45:27 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Hah
18:45:28 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2xulux 1 advice, stop talking bullshit now before you get banned ok?
18:45:29 draku^7: ^2both of you, Shush
18:45:34 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2i think u guy-S got a problem
18:45:41 draku^7: ^2stop provoking eachother
18:45:45 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2just both shut up and there is peace
18:45:48 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^3: ^2Affirmative!
18:45:52 Xulux^7 -> s^7: (17 recipients^7): ^3no you cant me tell why you mute me, but i want to know...^7
18:45:53 jacky^7: ^2personaly i don t provok him and have a problem with any
18:45:58 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Xul
18:46:01 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2read what I wrote
18:46:05 jacky^7: ^2just want to know what the hell why he call me idiot
18:46:05 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2it's all clear
18:46:11 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2stupid behaviour
18:46:19 Xulux^7: ^2remember Vip map?
18:46:25 jacky^7: ^2ja and?
18:46:27 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2Perhaps?
18:47:07 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3you just wrote that you can do whatever you like... Dont tell me reason of mute^7
18:47:14 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2haha
18:47:14 ^4C^0omp^1T^0on^9-^7G^9z^3: ^2Yes!
18:47:15 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2what a fail
18:47:20 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2can't you see that sarcasm?
18:47:21 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2xulux i was being sarcastic -_-
18:47:24 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2*the
18:47:46 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3i will see if you tell me why is meute ?^7
18:47:55 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2xulux last time
18:47:58 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2insulting is not allowed
18:48:01 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2don't agree/
18:48:06 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2complain @ forum
18:48:09 Xulux^7 -> ps^7: (2 recipients^7): ^3who was insulting?^7
18:48:16 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2you were -_-
18:48:25 ^1-^8|^1PS^8|^1-^8Death^7: ^2you were calling jacky an idiot
18:48:43 jacky^7: ^2it s not realy a problem death, i just want to know the reason :)
18:49:09 jacky^7: ^2we are all idiots one day ... or night :)
18:49:11 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2xulux just little kid who thinks he is bigger then everyoen here
18:49:18 Xulux^7: ^2t/m ps i just ask him that he is idiot? dont said that he is...
[color=red]18:49:20 draku^7: ^2alphatwins
18:49:25 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2lol
18:49:27 draku^7: ^2=> itachis eyes?
18:49:30 ^0^0Alpha^?Twins^7: ^2yeah?
18:49:32 draku^7: ^2NERD
18:49:33 draku^7: ^2<3[/Color]
18:49:40 ^0-|^MPS^0|-^MH^0eadhunter^mZ^7: ^2/end of discussion
18:49:44 Xulux^7: ^2belive me i;m bigger than you child
18:49:49 jacky^7: ^2yes xulux I M AN IDIOT, now that you are happy go and get a life :)
[/et_code]

Ok now this is all that i have what is from importance to this subject,

1st.Reading this i just think you misunderstood some things that we said?

2nd. Reading this i dont think Jacky is clean either BUT i didn't see that so i cant judge about that.

3rd. You called people an idiot multiple times as you can read.

4th. The reason why i didnt act too interested is because I, repeating I, know you as a player who isnt always sure what he is saying/doing. Reason because i've seen you couple of times calling people cheaters while no one was cheating and if im right you have called people idiots before ( ill check my logs for that)

5th and last, and read this well: There is a difference between calling someone an idiot or nab or something for FUN, and actually meaning it. And in this case you meant it. And that is disallowed and therefore will be punished.
making a joke is no problem but deliberately insulting people is not allowed

by **Death** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 0:40

Thought it would be good to make a new post.

(sorry its not in ET code but i didnt wanna waste another half an hour of my life on this non-sense topic)
Checked my logs since i was online on server but afk so here's the beginning of the story:

Code: Select all: 17:13:57 jacky: cheats 17:14:42 Xulux: hahaha 17:16:50 jacky: cheats 17:16:59 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': stfu jacky? 17:17:10 jacky: FIRST STAY POLITE THEN I DO 17:17:22 jacky: saying cheats is bad here or what? 17:17:44 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': cause any1 here is not cheating 17:17:46 Xulux: hahahhaha 17:17:57 jacky: did i called someone cheater funny boy? 17:18:07 jacky: i just said cheats 17:18:41 Xulux: ahahhahahahhahah 17:18:47 Xulux: fa domm is cheater] 17:18:51 Xulux: !!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:19:15 jacky: now , he called someone cheater, now you can react criminal 17:19:20 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': did you know that you cheat? :) 17:19:29 Xulux: do you talk to me child? 17:19:40 jacky: criminal , why you don t warn xulux? 17:19:41 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': oh my god 17:19:42 Xulux: stop cause i dont talk with you? 17:19:49 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': stop that spawn 'kill' 17:19:51 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': :) 17:19:52 jacky: criminal , why you don t warn xulux? 17:20:11 jacky: criminal , why you don t warn xulux? 17:20:13 Xulux: are you blinde? Or stupid? I said it l;ast time to you, so shut up... 17:20:37 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': xulux 17:20:40 Xulux: ? 17:20:41 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': stop that insulting 17:20:43 -|PS|-Cr!M|NaL': :) 17:20:46 jacky -> ps|: (2 recipients): you guys why you don t mute xulux for craps and insults 17:20:53 Xulux: its not insulting its true.. 17:20:55 jacky: warn with a smile :D 17:20:58 Xulux: what want from me? 17:21:35 Xulux: told you shut up.. 17:21:54 mute: Xulux has been muted for 3600 seconds 17:22:36 jacky -> ps: (2 recipients): maybe react a bit faster when a player like xulux insult so much 17:23:32 jacky -> ps: (2 recipients): he is already muted anyway, guess bot by you 17:29:47 jacky: why the VIP has the xulux face?

So it seems you and jacky had a little rivalery going on between eachother, jacky making fun of you . But seriously, get over that don't think the whole world is out on trying to make your life miserable.

The reason why you got muted was because YOU were the one actually insulting people. and YOU actually called other people cheaters, while jacky did sort of similar thing but he didnt say any names or whatever, he just said Cheats. We cant go around muting people because they say cheats.

You feel attacked by Jacky because he was involving in your conversation, next time dont respond to that by calling him an idiot and stuff, next time just do /ignore jacky and you're done.
If you had done that, people on the server would have been glad, admins/members of -|PS|- could've just played normal and you wouldnt have been muted.
And best of all, You wouldn't even have made this topic!

So my advice to you is the same as before, let it go and move on. Nothing wrong has been done.

by **boemerang** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:36

Xulux i have the answer but you can do one ting for me.....
close your eyes put your fingers on the screen and read the following code

..-....-.---....---...--.--...--.....-.-.--...--.------.--.--.--..--..-.--.-.-.---.-...---..
...-.--.---.---.---.-....-.---...-.-.-.-.-.-..--.....-.-.-.--.--.--.---.---.---.---.-.-.-.

See you understand....we are all happy now ;P

Will the rest pls stop talking bull and leeve him alone you just dont understand what he is thinking...now you get that you understand that you not even get close to what he is writing ...-..-..-..-

All the best 2011 is gonna be a grazy year

by **icefrost** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:00

Xulux wrote:I have a question. PS members can do things that normal member cant? can PS members insulting others player, spam at chat all time, mute players and don't tell them why? Can PS members put some players to others team, when they are in the same? Can they answer to all players when you asked him something on prv? Something what is your buisness?

Waiting for answer.

me wrote:yes. no. yes. yes. depends.

Xulux wrote:Ah, So yes:) Thanks that is what i want know. Just it, sometimes on PS was good play, but if this is how it is there, mean answer yes on my question. Its bad... So bye. I will not play on server when PS member can everything normal player can nothing, and it is justice....

i just answered ur several questions, not only one question.

yes ,PS members can do things that normal players can't, they got for example more commands then other players, so they are basically able to do things u aren't able to do.

no, PS members can't insult and spam all the time, same rules for everyone of course, member, new player or high admin, doesn't make a difference in the end.

yes, PS members can put someone else to a other team, even if they are in the opposite team and could even it themself, it's not a must for the PS member to even the teams himself all the time, so he is also able to put someone to keep it in balance as well.

yes, PS members can give a public answer to private questions.

depends, cause it simply depends on the situation as well.

all in all i also pretty agree with zombo, u might just be hot temperated when u wrote this topic, just relax, it's internet, serious business, i'm sure the world looks allready different tomorrow again, i think u just took it too serious this time, this single situation and u ain't a white horse as well, if u know what i mean :wink:

falbik wrote:ice knows Morse'a Laughing

ye :d seems noone understood my morse code in the end, now i explained it ^^

boemerang wrote:Will the rest pls stop talking bull and leeve him alone you just dont understand what he is thinking...now you get that you understand that you not even get close to what he is writing

sorry sir, didn't know u are a high admin here, won't happen again... :d

good n8

by **sjonge** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:12

I just have to say something here.

From the logs Death posted I can see jacky provoking xulux in the most annoying way and making fun of him. Unfortunately Xulux his nature is to fight back.

What some people in this thread do is being sarcastic towards xulux. This might be fun to you but ever thought about how this makes xulux feel?

by **Smadje** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:09

Can get your point sjonge. Jacky is for sure talking in a provocative way, anyhow the reaction off Xulux against this is unnecaptable. Calming down would be an better way to handle this problem. Let this discussion please be over. Everything is said.

by **St-Shadow** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:36

If I can put some of my three cents into this:

Except answering like a teen boy you could have actually PM one of the members around to fix the problem. Rulebreaking versus rulebreaking ain't good move at all. Remember even if you're the victim you need to report it in respectful way, otherwise you will become the bad one as well. Just for the record.

As it was already been said, members are here to keep this place clean of rulebreakers, cheaters and in overall to make this place nice gaming community.

by **on1** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 21:45

i think some ps members need to take there tag a little more seriously
all im going to say so no1 quote me for reply cause im not going into it

peace out

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