Revive protection bug?

by **CriminaL** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 14:23

wtf is wrong with revive protect? If someone revive me, enemy can kill me instantly. it sucks! :crazy:

g3w told me to write here so i did :party:

by **FlowerPower** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 14:28

Not a bug

Simply players don't have the protection shield after revive, it is just a setting. You can ask server owners to change it

by **SpyCow** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 14:28

I disagree!

If there was revive protection, you don't have a chance to kill the healer who revived the wounded.

Plus... You can't move when you have revive protection... Which sucks

(Correct me if im wrong/if it's not that we're talking about.

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EDIT: It's not a bug btw. And if this isn't if we're discussing about getting it... I'm gonna committ suicide of pure embarrasement.

by **deep** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 19:22

I always hated this setting. Imo the revive protection encourages meds to revive for a short shield. And both of the players can reload and what not.

I gotta agree with crim, it sux. I'd rather get a short freeze to reload than getting insta-killed once more.

by **Nismo** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 21:35

i also noticed same problem as u crim, its rly sux imo
i was killed few times before i could move anywhere..

by **CriminaL** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:48

Nismo wrote:i also noticed same problem as u crim, its rly sux imo
i was killed few times before i could move anywhere..

Yep, that is the reason why i hate it. Cant move but enemy can kill me. Example some days ago, 1 guy got killing spree @ me in 10 sec

LOL

by **DaRkMaN** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 17:29

Ok, first now it is much better apparent since everybody is low on XP and it is much easier to kill somebody.
Not you Crimi not you Nismo never compleind abaout it on PS5, and it was same on PS5 all the time. (correct me Sebb if i am wrong)
So when you will have a bit more XP you wont notice it anymore.

And have to agree with Spy about medic part, why would medic have live sheild?
Does engi have protection when reparing tank?
Does feild ops have protecion when calling artilery?
Does covy has protection when he throws smoke?
So why would medic class be special?
Dont we have enaugh rambo medics as it is?

So i am for as it is, just so medic class wouldnt get even more advantage compering to other clases.

by **Smadje** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 17:35

DaRkMaN wrote:Ok, first now it is much better apparent since everybody is low on XP and it is much easier to kill somebody.
Not you Crimi not you Nismo never compleind abaout it on PS5, and it was same on PS5 all the time. (correct me Sebb if i am wrong)
So when you will have a bit more XP you wont notice it anymore.

And have to agree with Spy about medic part, why would medic have live sheild?
Does engi have protection when reparing tank?
Does feild ops have protecion when calling artilery?
Does covy has protection when he throws smoke?
So why would medic class be special?
Dont we have enaugh rambo medics as it is?

So i am for as it is, just so medic class wouldnt get even more advantage compering to other clases.

Usually reviving is a risky thing to do.. a good medic makes a sacrifice for his teammates.

Rambo medics are medics who aren't healing but only go for their own success. If a medic revives that should be supported instead of making it harder for them to stay alive..

by **SpyCow** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 17:52

Smadje wrote:. If a medic revives that should be supported instead of making it harder for them to stay alive..

No.

Shield comes with being stunned, am i right?
Then it would be harder. No chance of escaping.

by **DaRkMaN** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 18:26

Smadje wrote:

Rambo medics are medics who aren't healing but only go for their own success. If a medic revives that should be supported instead of making it harder for them to stay alive..

I can understand Smadje you are trying to support medics to heal, but this is not the way.
Let's take example, everybody who gets healed says to medic:"thx", lol, what the heck??
Who says:"thx engi for repering that tank 30 times in one map?"
NOBODY
I hope you get what i am trying to say, why would medic class have anything special then other classes?
If you are obj player no matter what class you are, you will help team win map, if engi dies repering tank then let medic die reviving teammate. It is his job same as it is for engi to blow things up.

by **Eikkel** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 19:11

I will say just 3 words:UP-HOLY TRUE!

by **DMG_Kowi** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 19:38

DaRkMaN wrote:Smadje wrote:

Rambo medics are medics who aren't healing but only go for their own success. If a medic revives that should be supported instead of making it harder for them to stay alive..

I can understand Smadje you are trying to support medics to heal, but this is not the way.
Let's take example, everybody who gets healed says to medic:"thx", lol, what the heck??
Who says:"thx engi for repering that tank 30 times in one map?"
NOBODY
I hope you get what i am trying to say, why would medic class have anything special then other classes?
If you are obj player no matter what class you are, you will help team win map, if engi dies repering tank then let medic die reviving teammate. It is his job same as it is for engi to blow things up.

Healing certain persn is more personal and that's where those 'thanks' come from. Because medic do something especially for you. Engi's job is for whole.

by **DaRkMaN** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 21:28

Kowi wrote:

Healing certain persn is more personal and that's where those 'thanks' come from. Because medic do something especially for you. Engi's job is for whole.

Healing "certian" people is personal, what are u saying?
You only heal your freinds?

Medic does something especially for you?

Lol, so cov ops opens doors just that you take objective, or he opens doors so whole team wins???

That shit i saw working in hospital, doctor heals people and they bring him gifts for that. But i never saw them giving gifts to veterinarian for healing their animals.
They both do their job, so why are they different???

by **FlowerPower** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 23:24

DaRkMaN wrote:That shit i saw working in hospital, doctor heals people and they bring him gifts for that. But i never saw them giving gifts to veterinarian for healing their animals.
They both do their job, so why are they different???

That's a very very very different story than revive shield

Let's try to stay on-topic

I'd like to have the shield (just few seconds) after being revived, so I can stand up, look where enemy is and start fighting again: to me sounds reasonable and not a big advantage. Without shield you can be revived and immediately killed again without even realizing where the enemy is, and this sucks imho.

Even though, I can understand that some old PS5 regulars like this feature and it should stay like this now. If really a lot of players are interested in changing this, there is always the chanche to run a poll and decide

by **Nismo** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:06

thats sucks when medic try revive someone, he die cause of it, and even person who was revived also died cause he cant move.. if we will get many action like this, every medic will not revive anybody cause it wont have any sense
and server with rambo nohealing/reviving medics isnt "fun"
and also make a obj as engy without medic cover, healing and reviving is impossible.. or very hard.. ;]

btw, about shield, medic havnt any shield if he is alone like every class, only person which was revived
yes, its smart option to hide behind this person but imo u have enough time to kill med which try revive..

by **DMG_Kowi** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:26

DaRkMaN wrote:Kowi wrote:

Healing certain persn is more personal and that's where those 'thanks' come from. Because medic do something especially for you. Engi's job is for whole.

Healing "certian" people is personal, what are u saying?
You only heal your freinds?

I meant 'given person' or 'specified person'.

FlowerPower wrote:I'd like to have the shield (just few seconds) after being revived, so I can stand up, look where enemy is and start fighting again

As I can remember you can't even move mouse as long as shield stays so there is not too much option to look around.

Nismo wrote:btw, about shield, medic havnt any shield if he is alone like every class, only person which was revived
yes, its smart option to hide behind this person but imo u have enough time to kill med which try revive..

Yes, this is some skill of a medic to take advandage of revived person's shield. I also find it entertaining and demanding to circle revived one in order to finish off medic.

by **DaRkMaN** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:56

First, I agree with poll Flower, but not now, give a month or so when people will have a bit more XP then avarege 5k like now. It changes speed of how fast you will get killed, and medic will have full revive instead like now half revive.
Becuse then i say let's reduce power of rifle nades since now you get much more kills with her then you will in future when people will have more XP.

Second, talking abaout guy who got killed and revived and has a 2 sec sheild to stand up on his feet i dont mind, problem is medic who uses his sheild to hide and to kill you or to heal himself.
Lets say 5 guys atack, 2 got killed and medic revives them, that means 2 guys are makeing sheild for 3 guys behind them?? everybody in defending team shoots at them, but bullets are hiting sheild, they ran out ammo and atacking team kills them like sitting ducks. How can that be fair?

by **Jogy** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 13:17

DaRkMaN wrote:Lets say 5 guys atack, 2 got killed and medic revives them, that means 2 guys are makeing sheild for 3 guys behind them?? everybody in defending team shoots at them, but bullets are hiting sheild, they ran out ammo and atacking team kills them like sitting ducks. How can that be fair?

I want to see this when there is group of 5 working together

Will never happen.

But the situation is same than going behind crate or corner and enemy is using all bullets to that cover. It is up to you where you shoot. There are only 30 bullets in mag, so you need to think a little bit before pulling the trigger. :wink:

by **Dre_of_chaos** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 13:59

DaRkMaN wrote:Second, talking abaout guy who got killed and revived and has a 2 sec sheild to stand up on his feet i dont mind, problem is medic who uses his sheild to hide and to kill you or to heal himself.
Lets say 5 guys atack, 2 got killed and medic revives them, that means 2 guys are makeing sheild for 3 guys behind them?? everybody in defending team shoots at them, but bullets are hiting sheild, they ran out ammo and atacking team kills them like sitting ducks. How can that be fair?

The defending team can revive and use teammates as shield too?

Anyway, no spawn protection makes reviving pointless since its most likely both of you die.

by **deep** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 14:20

Let's go for the default settings! (And I mean like it is in etmain or etpro). I never understood why ps5 changed this setting. It doesn't make medics a bigger target for other classes, they'll just stop reviving that often.

by **DaRkMaN** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 15:52

Jogy wrote:

I want to see this when there is group of 5 working together Will never happen.

Bearnab why you fallow me when we play? or if i say i need help you will always come? why?
You think PS5 had teamwork few years back?
Teamwork was mainly becuse everybody was freinds on PS5, ofc you wont be a pussy and turn your head if you see a freind who needs help.
You think nabs soon wont see advantage in human sheild and start to use it in example i described? wanna bet?

And how come you never complained abaout revive on PS5?

Dre wrote:

Anyway, no SPAWN protection makes reviving pointless since its most likely both of you die.

We are not talking abaout spawn protection, but revive protection.

by **deep** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 16:11

DaRkMaN wrote:You think nabs soon wont see advantage in human sheild and start to use it in example i described? wanna bet?

And what's so bad about that? I've used human shield many times (like since I started playing ET) as a medic. It never was a problem until now.

by **DaRkMaN** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 16:22

Lol it was never a problem?

And it was never a problem until now that we didnt have human sheild. Whats problem abaout that now all the sudden?

Problem is medic is too powerfull as it is, he dont need few more sheilds to protect him as it is, thats the problem.

by **Nismo** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 22:36

DaRkMaN wrote:Problem is medic is too powerfull as it is, he dont need few more sheilds to protect him as it is, thats the problem.

yes, he don't need, but the guy who was revived rly need it..
for me more important is situations in which ppl who have been revived need this shield than situation when medic use this smart option..

whats then the point in reviving ppl? if it does nothing and even exposes me to die when i try to do it...

im conviced that with this setting medic will less likely to try revive some1
so server with this kind of medics arent longer fun teamplay for obj..

i suppose that we will have more situation with fast killings than this one with medic

for me its rly boring to die quickly after when im again alive.. it makes me angry.. much more than stupid protection shield using by somebody..

before this topic, i have never noticed this problem.. also i have never seen another topic with problem about smart protection shield using by medics

by **Jogy** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 23:26

DaRkMaN wrote:Bearnab why you fallow me when we play?

Lots of potential medic xp available.

DaRkMaN wrote: or if i say i need help you will always come?

You + Me = 2 < 5

DaRkMaN wrote:You think nabs soon wont see advantage in human sheild and start to use it in example i described? wanna bet?

I would love to see people/nabs learning some new strategies. Makes gameplay more interesting.

DaRkMaN wrote:And how come you never complained abaout revive on PS5?

I rather let my smg to deliver my complaints.

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