Tukker NL...

by **IcE-FlASH** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 17:01

Heya -|PS|- Player
I want to say in this post how your Member TukkerNL played on PS #5...

Map Paris Bastille
It began that the teams were unfair 3vs2 Crazy,Tukker,Ajdija vs Luke,Kiwers(999ping) i havent say nothing but than Tukker did SK...
I have said him to stop SK and fix the teams...he said "lol...i can't"
Hmm....i think with level 13 you can stop with SK,SC and fix the teams with !putteam,!spec999 or you can change the team...
Than i said if you can't your are a bad member i think...

Map Venice
Later the Teams were fair...Tukker warned a player for farming all was oki...but than he did SK and SC again...than he was in a fight and i have stolen with the last shot his kill than Tukker was angry...
Tukker: "mine kill!"
Fla$H:"mine kill"
Tukker:"Shut Up"
FlaSH: "Thats an insult"
Tukker: "No"
Flash said 2 times Shut Up
Tukker: "Its a Spam dont do it again"
Later Tukker was 5-6 minutes away and dont move to Spectator...if he come back i pushed him...and than i wanted to move from the water to land and he pushed me again and again in the water...than he was killed from allies xD (we were axis) he wanted to get medic but i dont give him because of pushing in the water...3mins later i stole his kill again with the last shot and he teamkilled me with a grenade...i cant do anything for it i have killed the allies with my last shot...i thought a level 13 Member wont do these things...and play fair...

Here you can see a Screenshot when he was away:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20080117152115venicezf4.jpg

What do you think about it???

by **tukker** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 17:31

If there are 5 players, how can I fix the teams in your opinion? It will always be 3vs2 or 2vs3. That's logical.

After that incident I said:
''I don't want problems and you don't want problems, so please stop''

And I said ''Shut up'' because you were whining and whining and didn't stop.

'Bout the spam thing: it looked like you were going to spam, sorry for that.

That teamkill with granade never happened, because the map ended. I always tk for fun at end of the map xD (last 10 seconds) ok ill stop that XD

Damn im getting tired of these accusings of whatever :S

What do you want to reach with this?

And I don't see the problem neither, but guys, give your opinion about this

PS: You didn't show the whole conversation

by **IcE-FlASH** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:00

1.Teams: Do you think these teams like this are fair(an example the truth is in 1st post): Landser,Lethal,Flash vs Tukker and 1 noobie??? i think not...
2.You said that you dont want problems after i said that i will post all in forum...
3.Damn that i dont do this screenshot of you offense...we played normally and than i have stolen your kill and you said shut up to me!!!You did silly things like tk or write the whole time something otherwise you will get more kills than 15 (you did sk too) and i had 66 hm...think about it pls...
4.NP for that that you think i wanted to spam...
5.Yes right that Crazy will say against me like on server shut up to me...and dont heal because you are a PS Member but ask players like Luke or somebody else...

Thats all what i want to say in this post tell the truth what happened...

by **Wastl** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:07

You were in the stronger team? euhm, Dont good players change teams if needed?
And even if you were a better player than him with your "66" kills.., it wouldnt make you a better person.

If Landser and Lethal were there, as you wrote, they might give some input here soon.

by **IcE-FlASH** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:13

OMG Wastl
The teams like lethal,landser,me vs tukker and a noobie were just an example...not in real

by **tukker** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:14

Landser and Lethal were there?

Hmm I may be blind, but I didn't see them

And Crazy#Terror was in my fireteam, I asked him not to revive you, don't blame him.

I said it's better for you not to get in trouble

by **IcE-FlASH** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:17

It was just an example with lethal etc.....the truth is written in the 1st post of me...and thx for not reviving me

by **tukker** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:20

How can we know what the truth is when you say every post something else?

by **IcE-FlASH** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:22

ohh man...you have to think you will know it if you have read all!
do you think if you dont learn in school you will get good marks?? :lol:

by **X-avier** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 18:28

My opinion,

You should have switched to other team, and if the other guy was ping 999 all the time you should put him spec , and go in that team.

2ndly don't insult others or push or tell other players not to revive a specific teammate because you dislike him/her for any reason.

In my opinion you were wrong tukker, and you should/could say youre sorry to this player.

and telling us that his story chances every post , that isn't true his just added an example, youre interpertation was that it was on the server, but you cleary knew they weren't there.

So ealsy said behave tukker,

apologize towards this player,

And behave as an member/admin, you are clearly showing the wrong impression of us , you aren't god so don't act like that you can't getaway with every thing.

Xavi

by **BOWDOWN** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 19:22

X-avier wrote:My opinion,

You should have switched to other team, and if the other guy was ping 999 all the time you should put him spec , and go in that team.

2ndly don't insult others or push or tell other players not to revive a specific teammate because you dislike him/her for any reason.

In my opinion you were wrong tukker, and you should/could say youre sorry to this player.

and telling us that his story chances every post , that isn't true his just added an example, youre interpertation was that it was on the server, but you cleary knew they weren't there.

So ealsy said behave tukker,

apologize towards this player,

And behave as an member/admin, you are clearly showing the wrong impression of us , you aren't god so don't act like that you can't getaway with every thing.

Xavi

+1

Just to add 3 points :

1. As a PS member it s ur responsability to check that all is goin fine in the server and for players, it include to make sure that teamz are even, etc ...

2. No matter the situation, never and ever insult players. We spend lot of time to warn players for their bad language so what u want them to handle the same think from our side??

3. Just don't TK, even in the end of the map and for fun, to avoid crapy situation. Some players don t like this and i can understand them cuz i m one of those. U want to have fun? go explode yourself by somethin etc ....

by **tukker** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 19:35

Did I insult?

TK never happened

And teams were fair..

Ok I will apologize to avoid a situation which is not good for anyone here.

I'm sorry.

Lock?

PS: We need more REGULAR admins @ PS#5

by **Ajdija** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 19:47

tukker wrote:Did I insult?

TK never happened

And teams were fair..

Ok I will apologize to avoid a situation which is not good for anyone here.

I'm sorry.

Lock?

PS: We need more REGULAR admins @ PS#5

ya u insult one time =P

but I don't think u bad member =) I rememer that:

- blablabla Tukker is bad member blablabla
- I can't shuffle etc..
- blablaaaa Tukker bad member blablabla
- insult
- blabla I create topic about u etc.
[end map]
-blablabla
-blablabla
- I said : Warn all who said u "bad member" , it's should work

"
- !warn ajdija no problem
- I said:

- xD
- It's end discusion

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I think this topic can be deleted

by **Scyther** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 16:16

I know that tukker did some things wrong, but im quite sure that Fla$h started this.

I observed Fla$h behavior some days and I came to the conclusion that its a person which has some kind of arrogance in it.

It's a person which always want to win; Never want to lose, he hates it.
When you kill him on backrapping as an example; he going to whine like: "omg" or "pfff"

My latest Confrontation with him:

On minastirith he teamkilled 3 people of us (including me) with fire support: I said; Fla$h watch out the next time where you binoc the firesupport.

Then he said: You walked in it.
I said: So the other 2 teammates walked in it also?
he said: yeah they did, and you teamkilled me twice!
I said: I never teamkilled you! and if I did it, then it wasn't on purpose.

Then some later when I was killed by opposite team;
he saw me laying on the ground and teamgibbed me.
That reduced his anger again, when he got the last word/action.

by **IcE-FlASH** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 18:04

Scyther what do you say??? :lol:

1.You are right i started it because i said no SK and pls Shuffle to him...
2.Everyone want to win...but if i lose i am not angry i just play 4 fun...
3.never said omg or pfff
4.i teamkilled 3 with my arty but what i can do for it???there were some allies and i throw the arty to them but than we have killed this 3 allies and 3 of my axis team go to the arty...why you go in it if you see it will be a suicide for yourself?
5.you teamkilled me 2 times before i did artyteamkilling...i said to you to open the console and read it i have found it!
6.i teamgibben you??hmm...i was concentrated to throw the arty cauze i want to have level 9 at Signals...

So stop whining and play just for fun...its not your life! :wink:

Now is all oki with me and Tukker so dont write more in this topic you can close it...stop it i dont want to have offenses with you...

by **X-avier** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 21:45

Scyther wrote:I know that tukker did some things wrong, but im quite sure that Fla$h started this.

Its not about who started it or why, its more about the way Tukker handle'd it

He should act like an admin/member, if someone is provocking/insulting or is breaking the rules in anyway he should warn and after that kick,

No actions like Teamkilling him, telling other ppl not to revive him, or insult back, thats the opposite of how he should act.

Thats all.

My few lines

EDIT

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So stop whining and play just for fun...its not your life!

Do I ever whine? this is a topic to discuss the two people behavior, I say what I see in-game. Do I act like this is my life? what makes you say that?

But other argument is wrongly placed in my point of view, TukkerNL isn't a player, he is an admin/member these members and admins are there to supervise the server trying to keep the server running and trying to keep all people happy, with that also trying thats it an fair play or anything that could destroy fun of others, like SpawnKilling, SpawnCamping etc etc.

And we Don't break the rules because we are there also to set an example. So if someone insults tk's or anything of that kind we have to set it right, maybe a warn will help, or maybe something else a mute / kick / ban / demote, that depends of the situation. Anyway we shouldn't return people's call if they insult with an insult. Rather mute them they might be pissed because they just got killed or something

P.S. im a bit wasted hope you can understand the meaning of my lines;)

Yet again Grtz Xavi

by **Scyther** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 22:20

Okay, I dislike these situations, I got involved in this topic to much, the only thing I can do to stop replying on this topic is saying: That it's all my fault, because that is what you guys want to hear!

But only when you want to hear my story read below, but it won't probably do any good. (It probably make a chain reaction of posts.)

X-avier, mostly the one who start the arguing, would result in a long painful discussion. It mostly starts when the first player whine/insult. Then the other one whine/insult back etc.

but on the other side;
tukker handled it wrong, but also Fla$h did, conclusion;
When you hit somebody he hit back. So when your smart, you dont hit back but you record the crime.

4.i teamkilled 3 with my arty but what i can do for it???

Here's a hint: when someone accidently walked in your binocolars zoom and you clicked. Then you must go spectator and join your team again, that will erase the fire support on your teammates position.

So stop whining and play just for fun...its not your life!

Do I ever whine? this is a topic to discuss the two people behavior, I say what I see in-game. Do I act like this is my life? what makes you say that?

I think we discussed enough about this lock it please.

I Don't want to bring an endless discussion here.

by **Insomnia** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 0:00

u boys make such problems if you do TK or TB yes its wrong i know accident hapens u say sorry its ok play forword but u get mad mad mad and u never do TB and TK u are prfect :roll:

and sorry sorry sorry for this topic

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