TJ (for obj) at graverobbery

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TJ (for obj) at graverobbery

Postby Dre_of_chaos » Sun Mar 07, 2010 13:49


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Postby Betinho » Sun Mar 07, 2010 14:24

1st to all, trick jump in grobbery isnt allowed (kill other allies and revive him for push him for the ladder), because you try to go for the objetive...so, this guy Fluffy (with 13000xp from belgium, i dont know exactly who is he) deserve it a warn..i will talk with him for be clear about our rules.

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Postby lazy-lion » Sun Mar 07, 2010 15:08

Hey,
I'd like to see it, but i can't.
Every time when i play some demo.. there is an error.
So.. if you can help me, i'll have a look ;)
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Postby wuju » Sun Mar 07, 2010 15:22

About this subject ill send demo with that to Bow, on Yours there is just a bit,

i got whole situation clear.

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Postby Audio » Sun Mar 07, 2010 18:01

What about warns for TK before they get pushed as well? ;)
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Postby Keeks » Sun Mar 07, 2010 21:01

There could be a member just to watch those trickjumpers...its annoying on that map...

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Postby LyoLevi » Sun Mar 07, 2010 22:42

I think a solution for this situation is to set lower the spawn shild.
I meaning the time after reviving.
I hope u understand my bad bad english :P

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Postby Smadje » Sun Mar 07, 2010 23:48

Only solution there is is warning and kicking/banning those ultralamers.

We wont change our settings because some guys try to ruin a map. Try to help us admins by recording/screenshots so we can easier clear the server off lamers.

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EDIT: Didn't watch the demo, so don't get my criticism personal ;)
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Postby BOWDOWN » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:17

Sad to see the name of a PS member involved on a rulebreaking demo, anyway he will recive a temp ban and i will have a talk with him to refresh some missed points since he was afk for a while :wink: .

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Postby przemsPL » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:28

i remember this situation and remember when Bow ban ppl for TJ on this map now i know TJ on this map is not Allowed

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Postby BOWDOWN » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:03

przemsPL wrote:i remember this situation and remember when Bow ban ppl for TJ on this map now i know TJ on this map is not Allowed



Well, it s nothing new since we always warn and punish people on grave robbery when they don'tuse the "normal" ways to get the obj. Now, i will just do a a lil clarification cause i don t want any misunderstanding for admins/members who will read your reply : the ban can only be temp (1-2 days) and only be the last issue when the player is a long regular who have a enough experience on our servers and acknowledge about PS rules or when a player had enough warns/kicks and still keep ignoring them , a ban don t have to be automatic and without taking into concideration the player's statu and behaviour :wink: .

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Postby Smadje » Tue Mar 09, 2010 16:33

Just a question about an other scenario.

Am I right that jumping on a teammates head for constructing ladder is also a trickjump? In my point off view it is, since you use an way for the obj that isnt meant to use it in this way.
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henksmadje please read topic more carefully and other topics too where u reply, then u get the point and dont have to make stupid posts.

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Postby Betinho » Tue Mar 09, 2010 17:13

Smadje wrote:Just a question about an other scenario.

Am I right that jumping on a teammates head for constructing ladder is also a trickjump? In my point off view it is, since you use an way for the obj that isnt meant to use it in this way.


i think not...i did a few times in minastirith (in the level 1), i was engeneer, and i jump in some intelligent player, who put his body waiting for my jump...no tj and no cheat (my point of view), but i dont know what bowy think...

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Postby deep » Tue Mar 09, 2010 17:23

Smadje wrote:Just a question about an other scenario.

Am I right that jumping on a teammates head for constructing ladder is also a trickjump? In my point off view it is, since you use an way for the obj that isnt meant to use it in this way.


wrong.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickjumps

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Postby wuju » Tue Mar 09, 2010 17:44

imo its tj too, if it isnt lets imagine situation when u can use someone body to jump on it and jump over for example wall.

the same in robbery, normal jump not allow u to stay alive, u have to use there someones body or other trick to land there safe.
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Postby Betinho » Tue Mar 09, 2010 19:04

i just cant imagine see 1 admin !kick !ban (1 or 2 days) or whatever for just jump in the body of other allies (i think this is very strange situation, not happen usually).
You are not doing nothing wrong (no tk, no push) and you are not using no quarter settings (double jump, trick jump)...if you play in other mode, you can do it anyway.
Anyway, my point of view, i will follow what owners say.

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Postby Smadje » Tue Mar 09, 2010 20:36

Kill revive push is nor a noquarter setting.

Yesterday i warned a player (sai baba) for it, since he was asking his team to land on his head as covert ops. It is just an situation that is getting used.

Quoting Bowy
Well, it s nothing new since we always warn and punish people on grave robbery when they don'tuse the "normal" ways to get the obj.


In my opinion it was already clear with this, but since i never heard someone about this situation I wanted to be sure off it.
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henksmadje please read topic more carefully and other topics too where u reply, then u get the point and dont have to make stupid posts.

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Postby Betinho » Tue Mar 09, 2010 21:24

Smadje wrote: Kill revive push is nor a noquarter setting.

no quarter settings, i mean double jump trick jump :wink:
Smadje wrote: Yesterday i warned a player (sai baba) for it, since he was asking his team to land on his head as covert ops. It is just an situation that is getting used.
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Smadje wrote: Quoting Bowy
Well, it s nothing new since we always warn and punish people on grave robbery when they don'tuse the "normal" ways to get the obj.


In my opinion it was already clear with this, but since i never heard someone about this situation I wanted to be sure off it.
if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)

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Postby deep » Tue Mar 09, 2010 23:21

Betinho wrote:if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)

u do know the rules right? lol

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Postby Betinho » Wed Mar 10, 2010 0:33

Diamond wrote:
Betinho wrote:if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)

u do know the rules right? lol


man stop act like a pain in the ass and try to be more constructive with your answer; or better just use your brain and think 2 times before write always shit words.

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Postby Smadje » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:17

Betinho wrote:I just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)


I don't punish for an trickjump, I only don't want that in this way the objective is getting reached. Maps should be played like they are meant to played= no using bugs or unfear features.
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Postby deep » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:42

Betinho wrote:
Diamond wrote:
Betinho wrote:if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)

u do know the rules right? lol


man stop act like a pain in the ass and try to be more constructive with your answer; or better just use your brain and think 2 times before write always shit words.


then stop act like a bad member and learn the rules- if u dont know what to do in situation when som1 tj's for obj. start using ur own brain instead of asking bow's opinion on every single case.

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Postby wuju » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:34

Guys keep the topic on and use some constructive arguments plz :)

Betinho wrote:
if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action Confused (jump in the body of other allies)


So look at minas, there is way to go and plant dyna/take obj if u will use someones body to jump on it :)

I know many players know that place in minas (im not sure but after 4th gate u can jump on wall with someones help) :)

Imo there is some path to make obj in map and going around that path is just

kind of cheat. Like in robbery, if there is ledder to build just use other way to

go there and build it, dont use all those tricks, doesnt metter how u will call it :)
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Postby Betinho » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:32

Diamond wrote:
Betinho wrote:
Diamond wrote:
Betinho wrote:if you are sure....i just cant punish a player for this action :? (jump in the body of other allies)

u do know the rules right? lol


man stop act like a pain in the ass and try to be more constructive with your answer; or better just use your brain and think 2 times before write always shit words.


then stop act like a bad member and learn the rules- if u dont know what to do in situation when som1 tj's for obj. start using ur own brain instead of asking bow's opinion on every single case.


Our discussion between Smadje, wuju and me is in a good way, we have a good relation. We cant see all the same. I never see 1 admin use commands because someone jump in the body of other allies (in minas 1st level or grave robbery in the ladder).
but you have to come here and , like always, write something in your arrogant way, like you know all, for you information, im not who have a long topic in member forum :wink: .i hope you cant write anymore here soon, because you write all shit words, since long time ago.

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Postby BOWDOWN » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:36

Well, we don t realy talk about a classic trickjump there but i already told it above, we want players to play for obj which is in the end the final goal of each map but by using "normal" ways, and i only know those imagined and designed by the map creator, all others can be qualified as tricks, cheats or whatever you want, not a big deal when they have no impact on objectives but they can t be tolertared when they change the issue of the map. So, no need to make exceptions here and there, it will just make it more complicated for admins and players, follow the ways and steps allowed by the map itself to accomplish the objectives which mean that for me it s also not allowed to jump on your buddies heads :wink:


Ps: Beti and Diamond, next time make private your domestic row cause no one is realy intereseted. I will let open this topic if some want to add their opinion on the debate but don t be surprised to see your replys removed if it have nothing to do with the subject and is only about cockfights.

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